Was that a bad comment? I only have one friend who got a chance to try and said the annoyance factor made it a nonstarter. It would be great if all cars were autonomous and could form an intelligent mesh and drive at a maximum safe speed continuously updated. I'm sure the AI guys are working on that, but it remains a chicken and egg problem. We are probably talking about different issues, public acceptance for personal use vs. the delivery/livery issue.
I would buy one in a minute for my 93 yr. old mother to get her doctor's appointments and handicapped people would benefit immensely.
Cross posted on different threads. The idea is you don't need to buy one. Summon a car via software. It tells you when it will arrive with a time window of minutes. Gets you there at the scheduled time and then provides the service to another.
Parking lots just might suffer.
Where I live there are cars that as far as I can tell are driven mostly to switch to the other side of the street on street cleaning days.
Yes there really are some folks here who no longer own a car. Bicycles are available at many automated locations for rent, Taxis, Uber etc. are available, some runs on a subway, others on trolleys and even buses. They rent a car for weekends or vacations. The time savings and cost drive the switch.
Public transport folks will tell you the limit is often how far people are willing to walk to the stop. AI brings the stop almost to you. Around here with all the hills a regular news story shows an automobile punching through a residential dwelling wall.
Many areas in the USA, like where Scott or SY appear to live, there may be adequate public transportation. Even in the SF Bay Area, where I live, the public buses, trams, etc are really inadequate, compared to what it was like 75 years ago. The personal auto is pretty much a necessity in many places in California and many other areas in the USA, and has been for the last 60 years, or so.
This is part of the reason there is an extra interest in cars in California, as well as the 'thrill' of high acceleration, even for short periods, and not necessarily exceedingly high speeds. Those are reserved mostly for Europe, where I certainly often cruised at 100mph, and had to move over for the Porsches, Mercedes, and even Ferrari's. This is difficult in California, where above 75mph is almost impractical.
This is part of the reason there is an extra interest in cars in California, as well as the 'thrill' of high acceleration, even for short periods, and not necessarily exceedingly high speeds. Those are reserved mostly for Europe, where I certainly often cruised at 100mph, and had to move over for the Porsches, Mercedes, and even Ferrari's. This is difficult in California, where above 75mph is almost impractical.
Cross posted on different threads. The idea is you don't need to buy one. Summon a car via software.
That's all well and good but the model fits some demographics and not others.
I would gladly trade in any car for a mesh network of autonomous vehicles if they traveled at maximum safe speed (read: higher than our archaic speed limits).
The mix of human-driven and autonomous vehicles which will inevitably be regulated to travel at the posted speed limit is going to be an utter disaster at first.
The mix of human-driven and autonomous vehicles which will inevitably be regulated to travel at the posted speed limit is going to be an utter disaster at first.
I would gladly trade in any car
OT my daughter is not working so she got in her car and drove to Houston to help in any way possible, I would not trade her for anything.
The other major issue is one of trust that there is not a corrupt node in the mesh, or a spoofed node that makes mischief... Look how the IoT is panning out at the moment.
IoT is a sad case of pony tailed hipsters thinking they are doing something new and making the same mistakes of 30 years ago but under more scruitiny from miscreants. I'm working on something IoT but 'nation grade'. It's bastrad complex!
I cycle to work and I hope I can continue to. commuting sucks.
I cycle to work and I hope I can continue to. commuting sucks.
Actually in traffic the Ubers do fine.
You need some Boston traffic. Especially a couple of left turns without signals where the only way to get by at rush hour is to be one of the first one or two cars that run through on red. I mean literally if you obey you will sit there for 30min.
Traffic ?, I don't see any traffic.
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You need some Boston traffic. Especially a couple of left turns without signals where the only way to get by at rush hour is to be one of the first one or two cars that run through on red. I mean literally if you obey you will sit there for 30min.
Traffic ?, I don't see any traffic.
I'll try go get you a shot of one in traffic. This shot just shows it stopped signaling for a left turn and waiting for the on comming car to clear. Look carefully and you can see the active turn signal.
Around here you move into the intersection on green and then turn on red. As it is legal to enter on green and you must then clear the intersection. The other version is watch the perpendicular signal and go as soon as it turns red. Most intersections are programmed to have an all red condition for 2 seconds.
But the best method is to turn at one of the AI controlled intersections that is controlled with the use of television cameras. The improvement in traffic flow on those is quite impressive. Although the first version ignored pedestrians!
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I would gladly trade in any car for a mesh network of autonomous vehicles if they traveled at maximum safe speed (read: higher than our archaic speed limits).
The mix of human-driven and autonomous vehicles which will inevitably be regulated to travel at the posted speed limit is going to be an utter disaster at first.
I understand how you feel about getting past our ancient speed limits. Almost no one goes them because cars and better than ever for stock handling....
HOWEVER I don't have much confidence for a quickly moving infrastructure of autonomous vehicles up north when winter really hits. I see nothing but grid lock.
I was driving back from San Diego couple of months ago. They were driving all in the left lane way below speed limit!!!
The right lane was empty, except some rare trucks going pretty fast, with speed limit and a bit above, because they had good powerful engines, and also some people who were passing all that rolling road blocks... However, when I entered Bay Area, things have changed, and slow cars were moving to the right lane to let faster cars to go.
The right lane was empty, except some rare trucks going pretty fast, with speed limit and a bit above, because they had good powerful engines, and also some people who were passing all that rolling road blocks... However, when I entered Bay Area, things have changed, and slow cars were moving to the right lane to let faster cars to go.
Don't bother as you know I am an idiot now and all can ignore what I say.I'll try go get you a shot of one in traffic.
OT my daughter is not working so she got in her car and drove to Houston to help in any way possible, I would not trade her for anything.
two thumbs up for her. Raised well.
I went to Nepal immediately after its epic quake.... I had been getting intermittent mobile phone calls from Gorkha... the epi-center. Seems my adopted family was there trying to call me for help. They had gone there for a wedding at the moment of the quake... levelled everything and killed all the animals in the village. They couldn't get out and back home for 2 weeks. They finally walked out of there after burying all the dead animals.
Texas is a mess also and needs a lot of help.
-Richard
Or you could start with something that weighs less than a family house! You know, like a sports car rather than a wallowy sofa on wheels...
I agree. who would do that?
-RM
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You and Ed should get together on an autonomous driving version, you know one that slavishly obeys every speed limit. It won't look stock though with all that paraphernalia attached. As painful as it is I won't break my promise.
Years ago I wanted a 59 BRG Jaguar with the wire wheels and a stock Chevy drivetrain like the one in my Gremlin. Who would know?
You should have gone and done did it. 🙂 Jag with chevy V8 was very popular modification.... longer lasting, more reliable and powerful with the good looks of the Jag.
Obeying the speed laws is no problem.... but a lot of fun getting to the limit in 3 seconds flat and still in first gear... then you go to cruise mode.
But then, I did get a speeding ticket in Nevada a couple months ago... fortunately only 96 mph... at that spot in the middle of no- where a SUV was hiding behind a bill board - apparently road went thru some unposted indian reservation ... they made a lot of money on me for the tribe.
-RM
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OT my daughter is not working so she got in her car and drove to Houston to help in any way possible, I would not trade her for anything.
That's great, very selfless. Hopefully she was able to get close enough via car. From the way things look on the news the highways are more like waterways.
I was driving back from San Diego couple of months ago. They were driving all in the left lane way below speed limit!!!
The right lane was empty, except some rare trucks going pretty fast, with speed limit and a bit above, because they had good powerful engines, and also some people who were passing all that rolling road blocks... However, when I entered Bay Area, things have changed, and slow cars were moving to the right lane to let faster cars to go.
That is not normal for San Diego. At all. Doing 75 in the middle-left lane on I-15/I-5/I-8 will have you usually passed on both the left and the right. That said, it's not as bonkers as the 405 near Getty, either.
It would be great if all cars were autonomous and could form an intelligent mesh and drive at a maximum safe speed continuously updated.
The Mr. Marshes of the world are not going away they will never sit passively in a vehicle solely as conveyance.
That would be great fun for the [Russian?] hackers... see if they can scramble the mesh network with fake code. Or just bring it down. Or jam the signals. Oh the joy of that. The anarchist delight.
Now that wasn't nice, Scott. Trying to hurt my feelings and soil my good name ..... 🙁 🙂 I'm going back to Bangkok to live there for the next 4 months starting Oct 1. I don't need a car there.... great transportation system all over (French built). Fast clean and reliable. A BTS station right outside my building... how convenient is that?
Going to help my girl get visa at American embassy in Kathmandu. Until then, go visit them and work on amplifiers at the factory. Eat great food and bring my girl to Bangkok for a couple weeks of fun with Lisa.
But -. Been thinking of getting a cheap used car while over there.... but then I see the traffic jam daily in the city.... naw. Well, maybe for a country outing on weekend or middle of the day when everyone is working and roads are deserted. Benefit of being retired.... come and go as you please.
THx-RNMarsh
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