I would want to go to working at bike, but distances are too long... And Buenos Aires is too dangerous actually.
Yes. An honest, positive and open-minded post, agree with every word. Anyone with more than a little experience of public transport would know that trying to get hoards of people to use it is a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME! Remember Transport 2000? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Better_Transport_(United_Kingdom)I detest most public transport in most countries, it sucks big time and I'll do my best to secure private transport for as long as possible. Public transport is generally uncomfortable, inconvenient, noisy, dirty, slooooow, short on amenities and suffers from most things that are public - the problem of the commons.
I'm hoping the long-term will bring us electric powered vehicles and I don't mind turning over control to an autonomous system from time to time either - perhaps compulsory on hi-ways and in city centres. Clearly the requirement will be local energy storage. Our houses will become more dependent on electricity, especially if we charge our cars at home. Existing infrastructure is limited in terms of peak current capability, so we'll want to have power in the grid and to our homes on a constant 'trickle charge' which can be more efficient from a power generation perspective too, with local batteries to provide peak current. Simple really.
Regards cycling....too dangerous
I won't ride bicycle on the street any more, I've already been hit by a car once and don't relish the idea of repeating the experience. 6 months in a wheel chair, six months on crutches, three years and five surgeries was not worth it.
There are several people I know of who ride bicycle to work. Most change clothes when the get to work, and again for their ride home. So, I doubt they do much more wash than I do. Likewise, I suspect they don't shower any more than I do. So, despite the higher calorie count, I believe their carbon footprint is much smaller than for those who drive to work.
There are several people I know of who ride bicycle to work. Most change clothes when the get to work, and again for their ride home. So, I doubt they do much more wash than I do. Likewise, I suspect they don't shower any more than I do. So, despite the higher calorie count, I believe their carbon footprint is much smaller than for those who drive to work.
In US most sold cars still have ~4 liter V8 (F-series(~35%SuperDuty)+Silverado), in Europe best sold cars have 1 liter 3 cylinders ? So there might be something in between US driving and biking ?
Irribeo -- patently false. Cars in the US have shrunk a lot and there's far less difference between European cars and ones over here. A decade ago, you had a better point.
As far as bikers vs. cars vs. whatever -- I've been hit by a car that didn't see me and had to file a police report for road rage only last week. So it's not a bike vs. car thing, it's humans in whatever mode of transportation.
As far as bikers vs. cars vs. whatever -- I've been hit by a car that didn't see me and had to file a police report for road rage only last week. So it's not a bike vs. car thing, it's humans in whatever mode of transportation.
Irribeo -- patently false. Cars in the US have shrunk a lot and there's far less difference between European cars and ones over here. A decade ago, you had a better point.
As far as bikers vs. cars vs. whatever -- I've been hit by a car that didn't see me and had to file a police report for road rage only last week. So it's not a bike vs. car thing, it's humans in whatever mode of transportation.
Not completely false. I see a lot of single people in pickups and SUVs.
DPH, really ?
YTD 2017
USA
1 Ford F-Series 429,860 +8.80%
2 Chevrolet Silverado 262,940 -3.90%
3 Ram P/U 250,443 +7.00%
EU
1 VW Golf 279,370 -11,4%
2 VW Polo 205,213 +1,1%
3 Renault Clio 195,903 +7,5%
YTD 2017
USA
1 Ford F-Series 429,860 +8.80%
2 Chevrolet Silverado 262,940 -3.90%
3 Ram P/U 250,443 +7.00%
EU
1 VW Golf 279,370 -11,4%
2 VW Polo 205,213 +1,1%
3 Renault Clio 195,903 +7,5%
I've got nothing against the idea of cycling to work, but for me that'd be approx 40Km per day - without any errands on the way home. In cities that didn't initially evolve as cycle-friendly, the costs in terms of "infrastructure upgrades" to provide color coded, protected bike lanes and traffic signals, the elimination of parking and traffic lanes, et al, can be in the millions of dollars for exactly how much "improvement"? Sorry Mayor Lisa, but your agenda is not really helping.
About the same distance for me, but only desirable during cooler weather, as there are no facilities at work, shower etc. It's still a fun commute, with very little direct interaction with cars, fortunately.
All the "improvements" on the way in to town are pretty much moot for me, as I wouldn't even go that way if I worked down town. I've ridden on that on that stupid 2-way thing they built on Pandora. Total waist of money. Man that must really pi$$ off the bus drivers.😀
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Anyone with more than a little experience of public transport would know that trying to get hoards of people to use it is a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME!
Depends on local circumstances. You will see the "hoards" using public transport every day in places like London - and in other major European cities. Those local circumstances (even outside cities) will be changed when EVs are pretty well universal, and when every 100 miles (or even 300 miles) means a time-consuming recharge - which in the city probably won't be available outside your house/apartment.
Jeff - indeed, this is the part that almost makes we want to cry
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/bike-lanes-squeezing-out-buses-on-pandora-1.20519601
step one of a $9M "initiative" - hopefully the Fort St section will be a bit more thoroughly thought through
hang on, aren't these the same clowns as responsible for the bridge? - you know the one 2?yrs behind and at least 50% over budget
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/bike-lanes-squeezing-out-buses-on-pandora-1.20519601
step one of a $9M "initiative" - hopefully the Fort St section will be a bit more thoroughly thought through
hang on, aren't these the same clowns as responsible for the bridge? - you know the one 2?yrs behind and at least 50% over budget
Not completely false. I see a lot of single people in pickups and SUVs.
Of course there's tons of large vehicles, but compared to our peak, we're way, way, way down. Yes, cheap gas right now is again seeing them on the rise. :/ And I'm always flabbergasted by how much bigger cars (yes, mostly sedans) have gotten every time I visit Europe.
I took exception to the idea that there's no one driving smaller cars here. Huge amounts of Civics/Fusion/Golf/Jetta/Corolla types abound. Maybe I missed what Irribeo was saying, but the US/Canada aren't exactly wholesale following the "Texas stereotype". That's what I was rejecting.
step one of a $9M "initiative" - hopefully the Fort St section will be a bit more thoroughly thought through
Only because there's more room in certain sections.
hang on, aren't these the same clowns as responsible for the bridge? - you know the one 2?yrs behind and at least 50% over budget
A bridge too far.😀
jeff
Creating a car produces way more CO2 tham the car will output in its entire life span, also if you compare e-cars to gasoline. So if we cared about environment we would try to drive our old cars longer, instead of creating new ones.
Batteries are another problem. Where will all the lithium come from ? And where will it be stored at the end of its life ?
The batteries from Karlsruhe mentioned before could make the difference, but the university that developes them is talking about 10 to 15 years until market readiness. Until then e-cars are only a joke. The only possibility is to rent batteries, but i dont know any company going this way. Imagine just changing the battery at a battery station if its empty.
Batteries are another problem. Where will all the lithium come from ? And where will it be stored at the end of its life ?
The batteries from Karlsruhe mentioned before could make the difference, but the university that developes them is talking about 10 to 15 years until market readiness. Until then e-cars are only a joke. The only possibility is to rent batteries, but i dont know any company going this way. Imagine just changing the battery at a battery station if its empty.
Renault lease you the batteries on their electric cars.
Dan: Jealous. My current commute is too short to be enough exercise, but better than nothing. When I lived further from work I found a 20 mile round trip not enough and 40 way too much when you have to get home to put sproglets to bed. I reckon 25-30 would be ideal once I got back up to fitness.
Oh and my last car I finally gave up on at 15 years old and 282000 miles as it was going to need some serious work. I will hit 300k in a car eventually 🙂
Dan: Jealous. My current commute is too short to be enough exercise, but better than nothing. When I lived further from work I found a 20 mile round trip not enough and 40 way too much when you have to get home to put sproglets to bed. I reckon 25-30 would be ideal once I got back up to fitness.
Oh and my last car I finally gave up on at 15 years old and 282000 miles as it was going to need some serious work. I will hit 300k in a car eventually 🙂
Yes and next to leasing they also intended to have battery swapping stations instead of rapid chargers for Renault Fluence EV. People didn't want the car, nothing changed really.
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ironically, di-lithium is carbon (atomic # 2 x 3 = 6), so those nice crystals you see are diamond.Dilithium would do it, but likely result in having a giant dust cloud orbiting the sun where the earth used to be. Long before heat death set in.
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Yes and next to leasing they also intended to have battery swapping stations instead of rapid chargers for Renault Fluence EV. People didn't want the car, nothing changed really.
People don't want environmental cars for long. Once they've got bored of the hopeless performance and ugly appearance that is. I wouldn't touch a Prius with a bargepole. But the Tesla looks interesting and having been a passenger in an S-type I can see the attraction. Make nice cars and people will buy them, simple. Make them affordable and more people will buy them.
> human waste ... gas ... for all heating purposes
Septic tanks are common here. I'm very familiar with mine.
Two pounds of poop a day will not make enough methane to heat a 2-person house for a day (in this climate). Not even if we save a huge amount of poop-gas (how?) over the summer for the next winter.
> ...in uk waste treatment works ..have both aerobic and anaerobic digestion phases.
That is how it works. The anaerobic bacteria (septic tank) will chew-up tough stuff, including human germs, into simpler compounds. The result is safe but not wholly inoffensive. Aerobic bacteria (septic field) will break-down those simple compounds. Mostly. The residual (as I found when the prior owner neglected the system) is "sludge" which has a mild odor but is incredibly hygroscopic. In Texas they spread it in the sun for a month, it breaks-down and dries-out. In Maine this is much slower. I had to move over a ton of sludge-filled soil out into the woods and lightly cover it to break-down eventually.
There's other ways. Strong chemicals will break-down poop, but at high ongoing cost and about the same tankage with more plumbing. Air-spray can hasten aerobic breakdown but needs more energy than a field, and can be offensive downwind. Air-injection (into a post-septic tank) is a thing. In high volume, settling-out and dumping more sludge may be the only way for a large town to manage. All phases of sewage have been applied on crops, and can be perfectly safe, but prone to problems including poor economics.
Septic tanks are common here. I'm very familiar with mine.
Two pounds of poop a day will not make enough methane to heat a 2-person house for a day (in this climate). Not even if we save a huge amount of poop-gas (how?) over the summer for the next winter.
> ...in uk waste treatment works ..have both aerobic and anaerobic digestion phases.
That is how it works. The anaerobic bacteria (septic tank) will chew-up tough stuff, including human germs, into simpler compounds. The result is safe but not wholly inoffensive. Aerobic bacteria (septic field) will break-down those simple compounds. Mostly. The residual (as I found when the prior owner neglected the system) is "sludge" which has a mild odor but is incredibly hygroscopic. In Texas they spread it in the sun for a month, it breaks-down and dries-out. In Maine this is much slower. I had to move over a ton of sludge-filled soil out into the woods and lightly cover it to break-down eventually.
There's other ways. Strong chemicals will break-down poop, but at high ongoing cost and about the same tankage with more plumbing. Air-spray can hasten aerobic breakdown but needs more energy than a field, and can be offensive downwind. Air-injection (into a post-septic tank) is a thing. In high volume, settling-out and dumping more sludge may be the only way for a large town to manage. All phases of sewage have been applied on crops, and can be perfectly safe, but prone to problems including poor economics.
but the US/Canada aren't exactly wholesale following the "Texas stereotype".
Except for Alberta. And even here in Victoria, one sees an awful lots of SUV.
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