Yes, that appears to be well said, I must try to remember that this is not a teaching resource. How are you defining the apparent disparity between help and teaching? I find it hard to understand algebra because of a form of maths dyslexia, but I remain passionate about electronics, I am more of a fixer than improve'r/designer.
Seems very abstract and I am having difficulty getting my head around this post, although does seem well compiled in essence.
I understand that ''good' caps won't make a badly designed circuit any 'better' and vice-versa. I also understand that the whole chain is relevant i.e. ears, speaker, room, other components in the system, the mains supply etc.
what is "easthical subjective perception" ? 😕😕
I understand that voltage can be lethal, I always discharge caps etc.
I understand that this is not a professional school of learning, but only a general discussion forum.
what is posteriori an hypothesis/theory? I understand that not everyone has the same experience or knowledge.
I realise that there is no perfect answer and I have not posed a perfect question either as everyone will interpret it differently.
I understand that people who have tried various experiments in practical terms have that experience to share with other members as they see fit.
Yes, I probably do need a 'round trip' to validate points of which I currently have no idea.
"We have also here to still understand if the op is in the field of dialectic or if there is a wisch of tailoring his dac" ? 😕😕
I understand that the caps are only a small part of an entire circuit, and that alone will not ensure a 'better' sound. Other parts have also been changed.
Yes, I understand that you have to drink wine in order to taste it and that the glass into which the wine is poured should also be subjected to testing, although I am sceptical that testing the glass would affect the outcome of the wine tasting process? LOL!
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It is to test/taste the wine... but why blocking on the cap if one forgett to remove the cork is the idea : people here are giving you a glass of wine, would you think about glass philosophy or drink it ?
Do you know this chineese proverb : "when the Wise shows the barrel of wine, the disciple look at the empty glass" 😎
Or maybe it was a sentence with the moon and a finger
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Do you know this chineese proverb : "when the Wise shows the barrel of wine, the disciple look at the empty glass" 😎
Or maybe it was a sentence with the moon and a finger
...It is to test/taste the wine... but why blocking on the cap if one forgett to remove the cork is the idea : people here are giving you a glass of wine, would you think about glass philosophy or drink it ?
Do you know this chineese proverb : "when the Wise shows the barrel of wine, the disciple look at the empty glass" 😎
Or maybe it was a sentence with the moon and a finger
No I wasn't familiar with this Chinese proverb.
I would drink the wine and not think about the glass.
I understand in order to drink the wine in the bottle, you must first remove the cork. (or smash the bottle!).
Are you trying to say that I am thinking about 'caps' (the glass) whilst you are trying to paint a much broader picture of the whole circuit (the wine?).
I realise that the same cap in different circuits will produce a different outcome/result.
these are the current caps:
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AtvZwp0rE3Aa0G6CTMx6ZhhLeIg1
these are the selected replacements (with the help of PM's):
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AtvZwp0rE3Aa0G_x2ME6VE2SeHVS
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AtvZwp0rE3Aa0G6CTMx6ZhhLeIg1
these are the selected replacements (with the help of PM's):
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AtvZwp0rE3Aa0G_x2ME6VE2SeHVS
these are the current caps:
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AtvZwp0rE3Aa0G6CTMx6ZhhLeIg1
these are the selected replacements (with the help of PM's):
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AtvZwp0rE3Aa0HDUZKC0IuNQuRFO
Sorry, new link!
Whilst I agree that relatively ordinary (cheap) components can be used to good effect in an excellent circuit design, you appear to have overlooked the costing factor when companies design a new product with a blank canvas!
In a large production run every new (expensive) audiophile component WILL raise their costs dramatically/considerably when dealing with thousands of items in a single ('run') batch e.g.
50p (cap.) x 10,000 (units) = £5,000
£3.00 (cap.) x 10,000 (units) = £30,000
COSTING is a very important consideration when 'designing in' a healthy profit margin for the company. Depreciating 'bang for the buck' is a major factor; at what point does a company say: "enough is enough"?
It is very much the case that if customers want top quality components, "let them buy the individual basic amp etc." ...and then they can upgrade any parts themselves (@ their own expense)!
Therefore, expensive audio grade components are NOT irrelevant or superfluous, they are simply BEYOND the financial scope of a profit making company. Money and financial profit are paramount in a competitive world marketplace! They have to build DOWN to a set budget.
In a large production run every new (expensive) audiophile component WILL raise their costs dramatically/considerably when dealing with thousands of items in a single ('run') batch e.g.
50p (cap.) x 10,000 (units) = £5,000
£3.00 (cap.) x 10,000 (units) = £30,000
COSTING is a very important consideration when 'designing in' a healthy profit margin for the company. Depreciating 'bang for the buck' is a major factor; at what point does a company say: "enough is enough"?
It is very much the case that if customers want top quality components, "let them buy the individual basic amp etc." ...and then they can upgrade any parts themselves (@ their own expense)!
Therefore, expensive audio grade components are NOT irrelevant or superfluous, they are simply BEYOND the financial scope of a profit making company. Money and financial profit are paramount in a competitive world marketplace! They have to build DOWN to a set budget.
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OK; in this discussion forum environment that is not a learning resource, is it possible to ask a learning question?
....basically, is it safe to increase the capacitance (uF) by 20%, i.e. 1000uF to 1200uF ?
....basically, is it safe to increase the capacitance (uF) by 20%, i.e. 1000uF to 1200uF ?
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I think that you are overlooking the engineering aspect of designing a product. Doing simulations, building prototypes and measurements to verify it is working as expected.
Your last question is a good example. To really know if something is safe, you will need to do the engeneering.
Your last question is a good example. To really know if something is safe, you will need to do the engeneering.
It is to test/taste the wine... but why blocking on the cap if one forgett to remove the cork is the idea : people here are giving you a glass of wine, would you think about glass philosophy or drink it ?
Do you know this chineese proverb : "when the Wise shows the barrel of wine, the disciple look at the empty glass" 😎
Or maybe it was a sentence with the moon and a finger
...abstract and 'parallel' observations, concepts & elaborations ?
It is a fuzzy line. On a forum like this it is only usually possible to take someone a little further in knowledge in a single thread. A few years later after many threads they may have learnt quite a lot. However, it is quite common for newbies to ask questions which they don't properly understand so they cannot understand the answer; also some false answers may be given but they cannot understand why they are false, so then they think there is a debate between two schools of thought when in fact it is just knowledge vs. confusion.thedoc735 said:
A 'fixer' simply replaces what is faulty. If nothing is faulty then there is nothing to fix. To improve a circuit you first have to understand it better than the original designer. Simply replacing components of Brand X with Brand Y is most likely to make no difference at all; it may make things worse or better. It may introduce new faults: "I recapped it; now it doesn't work" is a plaintive cry for help we get from time to time.
These comments seem to be based on the false assumptions that expensive audio grade components are electrically superior to ordinary components, and that this superiority matters in audio circuits. Both assumptions are not necessarily true. The big exception is valve output transformers, where more money generally buys a better transformer.thedoc735 said:
Didn't I answer that question in your other thread?
Must be using values that are far too large! Thanks to ALL for telling me about voltage and capacitance changes/increases to keep me 'safe'!
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