Funniest snake oil theories

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Letsee, those would be your usual SBT's?
This is something a little different.
My friends band now have their backline secretly running my filters.
The band is about to tour Germany, in venues known to the band, playing to audiences and venue audio crew that are familiar with the band.
The sound of the bands instruments including drums are now significantly different.
The band and I are expecting venue audio crew and audiences to notice this change.
The interesting outcome will be the reactions of venue audio crew and audiences.

Dan.
 
This is something a little different.
My friends band now have their backline secretly running my filters.
The band is about to tour Germany, in venues known to the band, playing to audiences and venue audio crew that are familiar with the band.
The sound of the bands instruments including drums are now significantly different.
The band and I are expecting venue audio crew and audiences to notice this change.
The interesting outcome will be the reactions of venue audio crew and audiences.

IOW, SBTs with pre-biased listeners.

They might be fun, but the light shed would seem to have little to do with Science.

But you get points for setting up a pseudo scientific test where you can hardly lose.
 
The whole of the soggy island I call home then! As for Jacco...

Never had a serious false alarm problem to speak of, and several proper triggering events. The only real problem I had was one electrician put a wall outlet in a bedroom on the other side of the house on a GFCI under the toilet in a bathroom (they like to put those electric razor outlets there). Took a week to find out why the light in the bedroom stopped working since I never use the outlet in the bathroom.
 
Trust your ears, Max! Single blind is enough for me. Keep on Truckin!
Thanks John, but we already know that 😉.

This test is interesting because sound crews and audiences will not be given a clue about what is going on behind the scenes.
I recorded Fri nights show and played back the non processed/non mastered recording at a party Sat night.
Many people including a couple of renowned musos commented on how well the recorded live sound reproduced, and had no knowledge of the behind the scenes activities.
It just doesn't get more fun thus this.

Dan.
 
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Having a GFCI or AFCI for the whole house could be IME a monumental PITA. A little leakage or arcing, and down comes power for the whole place.

Monumental PIA? In the plant in which I work individual motor starter buckets in the MCC did not have GFCI's, so a fault to ground would trip the 600 amp, 3 phase, 480 V breaker that fed the whole bank and shut down a big chunk of the process. Restarting the plant could mean powering up motor by motor until the bad actor dropped out the whole works again. Then there was clearing choked lines, digging out dough baked into cookers and such, could be hours of work. Extra fun if it was graveyard shift and there were no extra bodies to help.

Not my problem any more, we shut down the plant in November, we're down to the last three staffers clearing the place out, and we'll be out the door at the end of the month.

Bill
 
If someone is coaching, peeking is redundant.

He gotcha again, I think.

Years ago, possibly in the first part of this thread, didn't he say he sent his new stuff off to other folk to have a listen cuz he didn't trust his ears with respect to the new babies?

I know that's not DBT, but he's not there to coach, either. And if the listeners are competent that's all that's probably needed, right?
 
I don't participate in 'double-blind' or ABX type tests anymore. However, I do find blind tests with an unknown assignment of what one it is: like a,b,c or x,y,z. This I have found to be productive and have used it for 40 years at least. Today, at 74, I still trust my ears, but I know that small changes might be more difficult to discern, so I don't do much blind testing of any kind anymore, but I rely on others' subjective opinions of my designs, to remove personal bias from designing and building the product. Sort of like ones own kid, can you be objective about their good looks, etc ? I do know that some sort of judgement is needed, and that personal listening is the best way for me to discern differences, even in my own designs, so that is what I do. Every one of my designs sounds different to me. It is like a 'flavor', or 'signature' that goes with every design. I try to remove any 'signature' that I am able to eliminate, but each design retains something, so I keep on designing for better and better performance, mostly sonic.
 
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The boring thing about truth is that it tends to be unchanging, even narrow. Hence it can seem repetitive
Unfortunately dragging out the same old cliches repeatedly when they're not even remotely relevant to the issue at hand is not only repetitive, it's tedious and a complete waste of time and space.

It also shows a distinct lack of ability to read analytically and respond specifically to the issue at hand rather than a raft of additional topics with which a respondent may have an unhealthy obsession.

Basing responses on the identity of the author and one's perception of their opinions/ prejudices rather than what they actually write and the issues they raise only compounds the problem.
 
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I know that you know, Max, but many here are being led otherwise. I like your experiment. Trust me, I have seen it in action for more than 40 years.

No some are trying to install some reality into this hobby, the opposite of what you are doing with your blessings for the believers, just perpetuating a system of belief that borders on the silly in some of the myths propagated, such as directional wires and your friends super fraud components....
 
Thanks John, but we already know that 😉.

This test is interesting because sound crews and audiences will not be given a clue about what is going on behind the scenes.

I've heard that one before, many times. Shows a complete lack of understanding of the pervasiveness of unintentional cuing.

Fact is, if it is really there, then rigorous testing works a treat.

It just doesn't get more fun thus this.

If spinning the wheels with a well-known faulty test paradigm is your idea of fun, then I guess...
 
Unfortunately dragging out the same old cliches repeatedly when they're not even remotely relevant to the issue at hand is not only repetitive, it's tedious and a complete waste of time and space.

Case in point, the old rotten carcasses of sighted and single blind evaluations get dragged out by the true believers, snake oil salesmen and shills again and again.

It also shows a distinct lack of ability to read analytically and respond specifically to the issue at hand rather than a raft of additional topics with which a respondent may have an unhealthy obsession.

Exactly.

Basing responses on the identity of the author and one's perception of their opinions/ prejudices rather than what they actually write and the issues they raise only compounds the problem.

Pretty well a thumbnail sketch of high end audio today and for the last 30+ years.
 
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