not in a marketing and fluff based boutique world no. When Bruce Hofer says something about passives choice, I'll listen. Or Scott for that matter. Audio is not precision analogue design.
So you're saying that one's financial interests are never a source of bias?
If you are really that unaware, please be aware that in the minds of many, people who stick with tubes are instantly disqualified from any sentence containing the word "best".
The ongoing presence of analog media and tubed gear in the world of audio is proof enough of that!
I have two operational AP S1 systems, and I assure you that they stay in my lab and have no place in my listening room.
Where do you get such weird ideas?
the point of the discussion
Ap user: resistor sound is BS
JC-CH audio design: passive matter
Diy (at last I and Jacco) resistor have a sound
Ap user: resistor sound is BS
JC-CH audio design: passive matter
Diy (at last I and Jacco) resistor have a sound
You are apparently unaware of the dangers in and fallacy of forming wide-ranging opinions based on very limited evidence.
Some of us have learned about this, if by no other means than by aging. ;-)
Charles Hansen [1513] is right, and that is what the majority of all master audio designers think. When he and I talk, we discuss audio differences in components, topologies, and everything else that we have found that makes a difference sonically.
We are competitors along with a few others in attempting to make the best sound possible from the designs we make, and we sometimes win or lose to each other, just like drivers or designers in an F1 auto race. Competition keeps us strong and on our toes.
Those who don't believe much in audio differences are of little concern to us.
We are competitors along with a few others in attempting to make the best sound possible from the designs we make, and we sometimes win or lose to each other, just like drivers or designers in an F1 auto race. Competition keeps us strong and on our toes.
Those who don't believe much in audio differences are of little concern to us.
Wow. Now that's snobbishness at it's best! The little people, they just aren't a concern for us superior types. 😀
Yes, a true believer. We have them here from both sides. Listening and measuring belong together. Math also helps, as does polite discourse and discussion.
Bill, if you keep picking on the true believers, I will disclose your secret that you are not a troll but a gnome and live in the forest. 🙂
Not hilarious, sad, Charles is a good engineer. Why he thinks the most extreme hyperbole possible furthers his argument is beyond me.
They are, and that is accomplished fact for at least 98% of all persons with at least a casual interest in the subject, and also the vast majority of all audiophiles.
Some tubed equipment was actually sonically transparent, but that was rare in the day and part of the old high end. Technically speaking, vinyl can't hold a candle to good digital.
So, its not about me thinking that tubes and TT are obsolete (tubes are still current SOTA in some tiny niches but they are meaningless to audio), since I remember well a how pervasive tubes and analog media were when they were all that we had and I suffered through almost 40 years of that, I know what a tiny niche they occupy today.
Funnily enough I was asked once by a delivery man in Chicago if we had electricity in England!
Au contraire, I've praised their work here several times. They understand the issue of low noise/interferor incursion and that sense of effortless dynamic range, but differentiating their work with all the fringe stuff just insults our intelligence and should be beneath them.
When Charles and I talk, we talk 'hyperbole' because that is what is important to us, where we can make useful changes. WE ALREADY KNOW how to make good audio designs. We just know that small improvements can make us win or lose a listening comparison. I think that I will contact Charles again today, if I can, it would be a breath of fresh air, compared to what I read here most of the time.
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