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#481
As far as OS's .... most people in my city do not even own a "land based"
computing device.
I'm sure in small town America , Walmart prepaid android OS's .... outnumber
Windows and Mac OS's 2:1.

I gave my wife a OEM W7 PC ... she uses her Samsung galaxy - 10X more
to go online. The W7 PC just let's her listen to music louder. 😀

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#483
So what !! 148M fools.

To counter the " I don't have anything to hide" crowd ....

Read this - When Surveillance Is a Feature, Not a Bug | Al Jazeera America

They did touch on what I'm using for my cloud ... a combo TOR/bittorrent
"decentralized" cloud storage. I'm sure the NSA hates that.

What win 10 really intends to do is team up with rights management
organizations - MarkMonitor to Provide Data to Help Microsoft Protect Customers From Phishing -- re> SAN FRANCISCO, Nov. 17 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ --

This will allow for future legal blackmail even if something was illegally
downloaded by your teenager. The M$ EULA states "3rd" party , but
not who that party is. So , you are being "Nannied" by Markmonitor ,NSA,
other 3'rd party advertisers ..... might as well let them video out the
bedroom to target you for sex toys.

Win 10 uses a malware trick - Dark Patterns - User Interfaces Designed to Trick People
This is a standard social engineering technique used on sites and software.
Microsoft has adopted this as standard on W8/10. Making the default
most useful to THEM and also making it extremely hard to opt out or
disable said features.

New technology shouldn’t offer a choice between giving up our privacy to live like the Jetsons and defending it to live like the Flintstones
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With that said - get yourself a 4GB pirated W7 (with your W10) and live
like the "jetstones" 😀😀 .

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#484
Windows 10 is PITA for me. :down:
I have an old laptop, Compaq (now HP) Presario CQ-45. I did not bother to check the supporting O/S matrix, and upgraded my O/S to Windows 10.

And boy.... My laptop does not go to sleep anymore if I tell him to do so.
His voice is stuttering....
The performance is *very* sluggish (due to memory compression).
Hell, I don't know him anymore.
So I downgraded him back to Win 7.

I learned my lesson the hard way.
So just my 2 cents: check the O/S matrix before going for Win 10.
 
#485
sianturi said:
Windows 10 is PITA for me. :down:
I have an old laptop, Compaq (now HP) Presario CQ-45. I did not bother to check the supporting O/S matrix, and upgraded my O/S to Windows 10.

And boy.... My laptop does not go to sleep anymore if I tell him to do so.
His voice is stuttering....
The performance is *very* sluggish (due to memory compression).
Hell, I don't know him anymore.
So I downgraded him back to Win 7.

I learned my lesson the hard way.
So just my 2 cents: check the O/S matrix before going for Win 10.
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B830 CPU is @ 1200 passmark on that HP. Combine that with it's
on-board video ..... a 32bit W7 with all the "features" turned off
would (just) give an acceptable performance.

My older Core duo's (passmark 1500+) and a real Nvidia PCI-E card
just make it with everyday use.
Faster multicore (4 cores) , DDR3/4 are what W8/10 is fine tuned for.
This class of hardware where I saw the "W10 is faster" come true.
W10 is geared towards emulated hardware running on super fast CPU's
and RAM. (2013+ laptops and 300$ walmart desktops).

You throw it on a DIY rig with real sound and Video cards - W7 rules!


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#486
This laptop got upgraded to W10 in the first week. Exactly how that happened without my intervention is still not clear. It worked OK for a while and then slowly degraded to the point where I could not use it. I would get the dreaded Critical Error pop up with a forced restart randomly and on every power up. It caused the loss of a PC board layout, and some other work. I finally gave up on it and began using a 5 year old W7 Toshiba.

Last night I turned it on, and looked into its update history to find that every update MS threw at it had failed. I kept trying over and over again to get it to eat updates until it ate them all except the new version of W10.

After three tries and three hours it was still updating Windows, so I left it and went to bed. This morning it was off, so I turned it on. It got to a blue screen reminding me that all my files were exactly where I left them. After 10 minutes I left it and went to the gym. About an hour later I returned to find a log in screen. I logged in, and it appears to be working. After a few hours of use, there have been no "critical errors." Could it be.........working????

I don't know but I certainly am not going to trust it with anything important.
 
#487
I built this Windows SEVEN PRO machine out of spare parts about 10 months ago after dropping my Tubelab business PC down the basement stairs while moving into this house. I used the same OEM W7 CD that I used on the old machine that for the OS in this machine, and even though 80% of the parts were different (including MB, CPU, RAM and SSD) MS sent me an authorization code for it. It has worked very well in those 10 months.

I set MS UPDATE to "check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them." I have been picking and choosing which updates to install ever since.

I use this machine every day, and usually every Tuesday night or Wednesday morning I will get a "gentle reminder" that new updates are available for my PC. I believe that this week's reminder came Tuesday night, but I'm not really sure since I usually just dismiss them, especially after the W10 issues.

This morning I turned the PC on, read all my email, and logged on to the USPS site to print some postage when a dialog box popped up that informed me that "AN important update had been installed on my PC and it must be restarted immediately. It allowed me a 10 minute delay, which popped up every 10 minutes or so until I was finished with my business and shut the PC off......

I just looked at the update history to find that MS rammed 28 updated down my Ethernet cable and into my PC without my action, or permission. Some of them "failed". The UPDATE settings were changed to "install automatically." I'm guessing that one of those updates was a new version of MS UPDATE that reverted to the default settings. I set them back to "not install".

Prior to today the only installed updates for the last 3 months are definitions for MS Security Essentials. The little icon for the W10 upgrade is back. I managed to banish it a few weeks ago.

What will they stuff into it next? W10?
 
#488
Yep!
Some people have already noted a strange 20ish GB temp file on their W8/8.1 machines.
...... Hmmmmmmm W10 waiting to be approved for install by the user???
Also the data mining and spying "features" are quietly being pushed out to W7/8/8.1 OS's without obtaining permission from the user........
M$ is going down a VERY dark and misguided path.
 
#490
It was one of the first few trips down the stairs in a brand new house. I missed a step and had to decide in an instant whether to save the PC, or myself. The PC lost.

The rectangular case was rather warped and smashed on the bottom, and the huge cooling tower on the CPU broke and managed to bend the cover on the CPU chip. The motherboard was cracked where one of the mounting posts on the cooling tower was ripped right through the board. The CPU, a Core I5-3570K still works but overheats, so it lives on in another PC, but UNDERCLOCKED to avoid meltdown. 3 out of 4 hard drives were killed, and I don't trust the 4th one, so it's in a DVR now.

I built a new one about 10 months ago, and am using it now.

I am in the process of putting together a tiny PC with one of the new Intel NUC's. I put on a new copy of W7 and then went to Windows Update and set it to let me choose which updates, and when to install them. I then let it "search for updates" It found 152 important updates. I chose many of the same ones that seem Ok in my other machines, and let it install tem. Sure enough, my settings had reverted to the default after it was done. I put them back.
 
#494
Some people have already noted a strange 20ish GB temp file
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20 GIGABYTES? I don't have that much space left on my boot SSD. There are a couple of 20 MB files in my Temp directory, but they are too old to be W10. But then again this is a W7 PC......and I intend to keep it that way, it works just fine.


I found my new motherboard and processor wont run XP. It wont install just crashes out with errors.
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I have made XP work on several newer MB's, but it definitely doesn't like the internal graphics on most new Intel processors. The 64 bit version of XP never worked right, and even MS didn't support it. The 32 bit version only supports about 3.7 GB of memory. Having shared video RAM with a modern graphics resolution (say 1920 X 1080) will eat up too much of that shared RAM for Windows to work. I still have an overclocked Core I5-2550K (no on chip graphics) PC that runs XP, but it will not run some of my newer software.
 
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KatieandDad said:
Now here's a question that someone might know the answer to.

I've bought a cheapie Windows 7 laptop - it was cheap because it has Windows 7 Polish variety.

Will I be able to do the free upgrade to Windows 10 and will that convert the OS to English ?
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I haven't actually done it, but the answers seem to be yes, and yes with the caveat that the language change has to be done after the upgrade.
 
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