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I can tell you it's working : my dog is listen to me in the Hall before I take the lift on the fourth floor ! WIfe says Doggy is moving the queue before I enter in the lift !

It's must be true as I never find any guy in the closet ! (I have to confess doggy has big teeth, I have a picture if you want !)
 
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After 456 posts, regarding DACs and Sy warning I don't need a DAC I never-the-less went out and bought an AudioNote 5. Now that I had it I must agree with SY, I don't quite know what to do with it......

I connected the SPDIF output of an older generation Rotel RCD975 drive to it and I did not fall off my chair. My wife fell of hers when she heard how much I spent on nothing..... So at least one of us had the enjoyment of being blown away.

I think it will join the junk on eBay, was not worth the effort. Sorry SY, I should just have listened to you and let it be.

Now that is not exactly the worst cd player of that time but....it can be bettered by new DACs. I am not sure Audio Note is the right answer, I never bothered as they are quite expensive and not always very good. I don't know the 5 specifically (if it has AD1865 it should be OK) but I heard some older ones. Often standard and a bit dated digital stuff with added tube stages and the standard item "silver wire" etc. to satisfy those that want tubes and/or silver in everything. They are designed for a specific user group but I can listen to that sound character for hours. BTW it would also be nice to compare clocks in your application (lower jitter).

Maybe just maybe you should bring your cd player when listening a new DAC. I know I would. Sure there are differences in DAC chips certainly compared with TDA1305T. It just can't be that you don't hear improvement with better devices. Of course you won't fall off you chair but did you really expect that ?

Sure you don't need a DAC. Do you need audio at all ? I think that was Sy was meaning. If the cd player has a DAC and you buy a separate one you will have 2 DACs 🙂 That is true but I would listen to the better sounding one.
 
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I think the ".1X" series have the AD1865. The AN5 has AD1862.

Ah I believed they make two versions of the AN 5 DAC as well, one with 1865 K and one with the two mono AD1862 (Maybe K version too )

Btw I have a AD1862 DAC that a gentleman member send to me and I still have to finish it... (I bought two genuine AD1862 chips at Rochester and it costed me an arm because the custom and the tax !)

Hey I would keep the AN 5 and just putt a more serious digital input on it 😱

(@ JP : I exchange with you my magic two cents sense of french pun with your dac PCB building knowledge if you want 😉 !)
 
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After 456 posts, regarding DACs and Sy warning I don't need a DAC I never-the-less went out and bought an AudioNote 5. Now that I had it I must agree with SY, I don't quite know what to do with it......

May be the quality of your DAC at home is not too different than the Audio Note? We all know that being more expensive doesn't translate automatically into being higher in quality. At least you should have had your "criteria" when you chosed the AN, just like when we build amplifier, we decide what topology is best, what stability margin, etc...

For me, a complete DAC is very hard to understand, that is what causing what.

I have top DAC chips, but with ordinary implementation they are far from being the best sounding. But of course DAC chip is important, more than resistor type. But I still cannot formulate the recipe...

It seems to me that resolution such as 24/192 is important, but it means harder to optimize. It has more tendency to sound boring and "digital" than NOS TDA1541, the standard for best "low resolution" DAC.

My current "proven" trick is to incorporate tube output with 24/192 chip. The sound level is similar to an Audio Aero with similar implementation.
 
May be the quality of your DAC at home is not too different than the Audio Note? We all know that being more expensive doesn't translate automatically into being higher in quality.

Come on Jay/Jean-Paul, people with more money must have better ears, the manufacturers would not be stupid enough to build expensive gear for the poor or needy! 😡
 
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I have a DIY fully tweaked out single board DDDAC.

Friends of mine in Jacksonville, FL who have gone to many high-end audio equipment shows say that they have never heard a more analog sounding DAC at any price than my DDDAC.
 
After 456 posts, regarding DACs and Sy warning I don't need a DAC I never-the-less went out and bought an AudioNote 5. Now that I had it I must agree with SY, I don't quite know what to do with it......

I connected the SPDIF output of an older generation Rotel RCD975 drive to it and I did not fall off my chair. My wife fell of hers when she heard how much I spent on nothing..... So at least one of us had the enjoyment of being blown away.

I think it will join the junk on eBay, was not worth the effort. Sorry SY, I should just have listened to you and let it be.

good for you if you cant hear no difference, I sure do, so thousands of audiophile, professional, and even my mother and basically everyone I did showed them the difference.
Are you trying to imply that all of audiophile, professional are simply convincing themselves they do hear a difference?

even in a blind test, I could know my buffalo dac, to my ecdesign to my hrt music streamer without even trying. its obvious to be very honest.
give the dac a couple of days, get used to the sound. immerse ourself in a couple of albums, then switch dac.
 
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After 456 posts, regarding DACs and Sy warning I don't need a DAC I never-the-less went out and bought an AudioNote 5. Now that I had it I must agree with SY, I don't quite know what to do with it......

I connected the SPDIF output of an older generation Rotel RCD975 drive to it and I did not fall off my chair. My wife fell of hers when she heard how much I spent on nothing..... So at least one of us had the enjoyment of being blown away.


I am with you Nico.
If you have a topend LP frontend (and I mean topend) or you don't have a revealing amp and speakers, a good DAC is almost a waste of time, unless the convenience of digital music is important to you.
But then again, this is a 'Best DAC's' thread, so most here are digital-heads (me included!), so do not expect too much love for LP or analogue front end.
Note that if you do not have a topend LP system, then DAC wins!
If you don't have too much money, or too many LP's, you live by downloading flac's, again the DAC wins!
For those fortunate enough with topend (again) LP systems and a good collection of LP's - DACs are a waste of time and money, it won't beat a good LP system, not yet - although some get very close.
I absolutely love my Leema Acoustics Elements DAC. to me (and in my system) it sounds as good as an analogue frontend.
I auditioned at length, at least six other DAC's up to £2500 - and Leema won.
I also got a remote control, a 256 step analogue volume control, and an analogue input as a bonus! (Yes it is a preamp too, with true balanced output) for when I get my finger out, bring my TD160, Entre cartridge and SME III's out of the attic and hook'em up.
I am just lazy, my music is all on a server, Digital is convinient.
 
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Originally Posted by Nico Ras View Post
After 456 posts, regarding DACs and Sy warning I don't need a DAC I never-the-less went out and bought an AudioNote 5. Now that I had it I must agree with SY, I don't quite know what to do with it......

I connected the SPDIF output of an older generation Rotel RCD975 drive to it and I did not fall off my chair. My wife fell of hers when she heard how much I spent on nothing..... So at least one of us had the enjoyment of being blown away.


I am with you Nico.
If you have a topend LP frontend (and I mean topend) or you don't have a revealing amp and speakers, a good DAC is almost a waste of time, unless the convenience of digital music is important to you.
But then again, this is a 'Best DAC's' thread, so most here are digital-heads (me included!), so do not expect too much love for LP or analogue front end.
Note that if you do not have a topend LP system, then DAC wins!
If you don't have too much money, or too many LP's, you live by downloading flac's, again the DAC wins!
For those fortunate enough with topend (again) LP systems and a good collection of LP's - DACs are a waste of time and money, it won't beat a good LP system, not yet - although some get very close.
I absolutely love my Leema Acoustics Elements DAC. to me (and in my system) it sounds as good as an analogue frontend.
I auditioned at length, at least six other DAC's up to £2500 - and Leema won.
I also got a remote control, a 256 step analogue volume control, and an analogue input as a bonus! (Yes it is a preamp too, with true balanced output) for when I get my finger out, bring my TD160, Entre cartridge and SME III's out of the attic and hook'em up.
I am just lazy, my music is all on a server, Digital is convinient.

Just get your thorens from the attic, there is no digital source that sounds as good as a well tuned thorens. I have owned all kind of dacs for the last 30 years but i like the sound of my thorens TD160 best.
 

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Just get your thorens from the attic, there is no digital source that sounds as good as a well tuned thorens. I have owned all kind of dacs for the last 30 years but i like the sound of my thorens TD160 best.

A really good digi set up can sound just as good and open natural and add cleaner. But some people tend to miss the snap crackle and pop charm of vinyl.