While I was waiting:
I turned everything off and started Task Manager.
I even pulled out the internet RJ45 so that background checks would fail.
While Task Manager was running the HDD went into full run.
It was Rapport Management that was hogging ~50% of the CPU.
Rapport is a protection application recommended by my banks.
Here's a pic after it had stopped.
I turned everything off and started Task Manager.
I even pulled out the internet RJ45 so that background checks would fail.
While Task Manager was running the HDD went into full run.
It was Rapport Management that was hogging ~50% of the CPU.
Rapport is a protection application recommended by my banks.
Here's a pic after it had stopped.
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I'd be surprised if CCleaner makes any difference tbh. As always, I recommend a full clean of temporary files and temporary internet files (in other words a full browser clean). Make sure you only have one tab open to begin with when online (for example, diyAudio) as many sites (even email home pages) have ads and poorly written scripts that suck the life from any PC. Then see if the problem persists.
Programs and applications that are installed and not running should not be an issue. Use 'msconfig' to see what starts and runs with Windows. To see that, type 'msconig' into the search/run box and click the tab marked 'startup'. Look for anything 3rd party that you have installed and if its something you rarely use then click and disable it. That doesn't the program running on demand, it just stops it loading with Windows at the initial boot. You can always enable it again if needed.
Programs and applications that are installed and not running should not be an issue. Use 'msconfig' to see what starts and runs with Windows. To see that, type 'msconig' into the search/run box and click the tab marked 'startup'. Look for anything 3rd party that you have installed and if its something you rarely use then click and disable it. That doesn't the program running on demand, it just stops it loading with Windows at the initial boot. You can always enable it again if needed.
No,
I deleted 9applications
Download and run lots of sections in CCleaner.
Updated Windows that took 32minutes, It was last updated last Friday.
restarted and waited 4 minutes for the setup to settle down.
opened Task Manager
handles is down from ~23000 to ~19000
memory is ~1.9GB compared to 2.5GB before CCleaner.
Seems AVG has been doing a fairly good job of keeping most in control.
About a minute after starting Task Manager it started going into very high CPU usage, even though the only app open was Task Manager.
here's a pic.
That's about 6mins of high CPU usage and then it settles and the Memory flat lines
And still pretty busy after that snapshot.
Opened the browser and it hung for a second as I tried to login to DIYaudio. All I typed was an A and it just thought about it for a second before displaying the A then back to normal
I deleted 9applications
Download and run lots of sections in CCleaner.
Updated Windows that took 32minutes, It was last updated last Friday.
restarted and waited 4 minutes for the setup to settle down.
opened Task Manager
handles is down from ~23000 to ~19000
memory is ~1.9GB compared to 2.5GB before CCleaner.
Seems AVG has been doing a fairly good job of keeping most in control.
About a minute after starting Task Manager it started going into very high CPU usage, even though the only app open was Task Manager.
here's a pic.
That's about 6mins of high CPU usage and then it settles and the Memory flat lines
And still pretty busy after that snapshot.
Opened the browser and it hung for a second as I tried to login to DIYaudio. All I typed was an A and it just thought about it for a second before displaying the A then back to normal
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If you click the processes tab of task manager then you should be able to see what is using your resources. This is for W8.1 but W7 is similar. This is with four tabs open in IE, Email, diyAudio, Bing and Google.
3rd party security suites can be resource hogs to a greater or lesser degree.
3rd party security suites can be resource hogs to a greater or lesser degree.
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Use these [run both, one after the other] regularly:
Malwarebytes Anti-Rootkit Download
RogueKiller Download
You will be surprised at what these can find on your machine.
Malwarebytes Anti-Rootkit Download
RogueKiller Download
You will be surprised at what these can find on your machine.
Yes, in the processes tab:
1. At the bottom left of the screen, click the button - "Show processes from all users".
2. Click on the "Memory (Private Working Set)" column header to sort the data in ascending/descending order.
3. Note the top 5 entries for highest numbers in this column.
Do steps 2 and 3 for the "CPU" column header too.
I used this PC for a short while last night and a couple of hours this morning. No long delays in that short test.
I will monitor a bit longer before I do any more.
Thanks for all the bug finding suggestions.
And any new ones you come up with.
I will monitor a bit longer before I do any more.
Thanks for all the bug finding suggestions.
And any new ones you come up with.
Andrew , you still have 57 processes and 3 times the memory usage (below).
I'm running proxy/torrent clients and doing some other things -
plus 6 tabs on my browser , as well.
9580 handles
450+ threads
32 processes.
That posted OS would outperform your dual core on a 10 year old
pentium 4 (with 4G and the right X64 processor).
Yours is "bloated" like my wife's legal W7 , need to get rid of hers
someday (when it flops) 😀 .
Ccleaner is good , but all these recommendations of the anti-malware ,
most antivirus progs ... are the real "malware".
Quite un-needed if you educate yourself on what to do (or not).
Windows 7 itself is a piece of "spyware" itself after this -
Microsoft accused of adding spy features to Windows 7, 8 | Ars Technica
It really angers me that most of the current "updates" are trying to
force an upgrade to a subscription based software (W10).
You really can get W7 to run like a fast "toaster". My OS would most
likely outperform the fastest i7 running "normal" W7 (or a bloated 8/10).
A full reinstall of win7 , shut off updates .... and a careful selection of
3'rd party software makes for a reliable , fast OS.
OS
I'm running proxy/torrent clients and doing some other things -
plus 6 tabs on my browser , as well.
9580 handles
450+ threads
32 processes.
That posted OS would outperform your dual core on a 10 year old
pentium 4 (with 4G and the right X64 processor).
Yours is "bloated" like my wife's legal W7 , need to get rid of hers
someday (when it flops) 😀 .
Ccleaner is good , but all these recommendations of the anti-malware ,
most antivirus progs ... are the real "malware".
Quite un-needed if you educate yourself on what to do (or not).
Windows 7 itself is a piece of "spyware" itself after this -
Microsoft accused of adding spy features to Windows 7, 8 | Ars Technica
It really angers me that most of the current "updates" are trying to
force an upgrade to a subscription based software (W10).
You really can get W7 to run like a fast "toaster". My OS would most
likely outperform the fastest i7 running "normal" W7 (or a bloated 8/10).
A full reinstall of win7 , shut off updates .... and a careful selection of
3'rd party software makes for a reliable , fast OS.
OS
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BTW Andrew... I'm also running win 7 on my main computer. I really like this OS..it's . fast, stable and user friendly.
One thing I do use on "7" it the "CPU Meter gadget" on my desktop. It gives a real time CPU and memory usage alerting you to any problems..... making it easy to identify its source.
The gadget also takes very little resources. 🙂
One thing I do use on "7" it the "CPU Meter gadget" on my desktop. It gives a real time CPU and memory usage alerting you to any problems..... making it easy to identify its source.
The gadget also takes very little resources. 🙂
The most frequent maintenance I perform:
After this quick note... I basically use Windows Explorer as my desktop, or maybe more specifically as command line substitute. File associations let me open, run, move, rename, etc.
I right-click the HD, select Properties, and press Disk Cleanup for all users.
Every month or so I also select the More Options tab and clean up all the old restore points.
After this quick note... I basically use Windows Explorer as my desktop, or maybe more specifically as command line substitute. File associations let me open, run, move, rename, etc.
I right-click the HD, select Properties, and press Disk Cleanup for all users.
Every month or so I also select the More Options tab and clean up all the old restore points.
W7 64 and x86 was perfected about update KB290xxxx , I've read in detail
most updates after.
Most are hotfixes of their lame media player or updates to turn W7 into
a M$ spyware machine. The "core" was fixed/perfected in 2013.
Most W7 installs are default with over 50 services "auto" or enabled.
You only need about 23 to really run and possibly 6 more set to "manual".
"manual" will only activate a service if a program really needs it.
This determines SVChost.exe overhead (# of instances).
Normal W7 install = >250megs svchost.
A tweaked install = 90megs svchost.
INSTANT 200% performance gain + a safer core OS.
(windows is less "chatty" 😀)
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post24 looks fine?
Memory usage at 2.64GB today.
CPU still has peaks to around 80% to 90% even though I'm just browsing this Forum.
Memory usage at 2.64GB today.
CPU still has peaks to around 80% to 90% even though I'm just browsing this Forum.
Does it only do this when you are online ?
Does the CPU usage settle to a low level very quickly when you are not online ?
Have you only one security suite installed (the AVG I can see in the picture) ?
It might be worth disabling real time protection as a test and seeing if AVG is the culprit.
A reinstall is a great opportunity to get a clean system but its a major undertaking to do it properly.
Memory
firefox 551M
svchost 128M
MsMpEng 73M
AcroRd32 56M
TrustedInstaller 34M
RapportMgmService 34M
explorer 33M
SearchIndexer 29M
(svchost has 12 entries, 4 each in network, system & local)
CPU
System Idle Process 88 to 98
firefox 0 to 5
taskmgr 1 to 2
WmiPrvSE 0 to 6
AcroRd32 0
taskhost 0
RdrCEF 0
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