So, that's where we're different then. I don't consider the dismissal of imagination ignorance, or the glorification of feelings over substance to be knowledge.
We're really never going to be on the same page.
I have done EXACTLY this, many times. Sometimes the differences are too small to notice or give credit. Other times they've been so huge as to be shocking, leading to much laughing and head scratching.
But feel free to ignore me, I'm just some guy. I'm not even published in the subject.
What are you waiting for? A single published paper that proves any of that stuff is real would put this whole topic to bed in a hurry...and probably win you some serious cash.
Yep , sometimes the difference shows up over time and not in a quick switch back and forth ...
The way to escape from the 'madness' of listening to equipment, is to listen to recordings, 😛. This is what I do ... I put on an album and listen to the music, and only the music - and this is either reproduced at a satisfying level or it isn't. If the latter - something is 'wrong' or irritating or disturbing in the sound - then my playback system is faulty, or not working to a high enough standard. As simple as that. I have been tempted, at times of weakness, to think, no, this recording is just too impossible to make come good, there are too many problems with it - but it has always turned out, always, that it was a moment of weakness on my part to think this way - a good breath of fresh air, a bit of inspired thinking, and the energy to re-apply myself to sorting out aspects of the system, persistence - and then out pops sufficiently good playback to make that recording come to life ...
Thanks for that post, Andrew. Your journey mirrors my own in many ways, it's a hard slog at times trying to understand "what's going on??" - but the good news is that persistence is rewarded; slowly, bit by bit, greater understanding evolves - I have never gone backwards in this quest ... yes, great frustration at times, but then down the track new insights and renewed energy get one back on track again ...
And on the other side, they don't want to know that there is anything more to it, it would spoil their cosy comfort zone of beliefs built up over the years - subconsciously, they would probably "wreck" any serious experiment to look at this, because they carry too much emotional baggage, invested in one side of the "argument" ...
That's a common misconception about abx and double blind testing : you don't have to quickly switch back and forth, you can listen to the equipments being tested as long as you like.
When you, the person being tested, asks the equipment being tested to be switched , the switch between equipments should be very quick, so as to not waste your hearing memory.
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the same can be said about you....
That's probably in respect to the DBT and "no peeking" issue - the thing is, I realise what the traps are in this, the numerous flaws in the procedures - so if I did such it would be on my terms; for example, choice of source material, volume levels listened at - I know precisely how to stress test the systems, conventional clipping being nowhere in sight - to make it ridiculously obvious where the differences are.
My belief change happened in an instance, it did not take years to evolve - one day I was listening to conventional audio sound, the next I experienced a good slab of the "good stuff", that experience is locked in as solidly as learning how to ride a bike - people gabbling on about scientific studies "proving" that it can't happen ... I just shake my head ...
If "works" is defined as "helps you sell a fantasy," then you're right. If "works" means "allows serious people to understand what things are audible and use this to actually advance the art of audio," then it works very well indeed.
You, sir, are projecting.
The more technical people in this discussion don't believe in amplifiers having prat, a sound stage of its own etc because they have never been exposed to any evidence to its existence, not because of a closed mind.
Au contrarie, given any evidence of the existence of these effects I really doubt anyone here would say they didn't occur.
The fact, however, is that there isn't a shed of evidence for their existence and all serious testing ever made have failed to come with any evidence at all.
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Hearing memory is not an issue when focused , by time i mean days possibly weeks. Many amplifiers flatter to later decieve. Once the offensive demon is reconized then its audible regardless of switching or not . also decision made on sonics is never done on one listen or in one system , consistency is important ...
I have found going back best after auditioning as oppose to going forward
I have found going back best after auditioning as oppose to going forward
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