This suggestion is so strong its just amazing,
I thought right then so I changed the cathode resistor in the driver tube in my amp and bam sound stage got wider, changed it to diodes and the shape changed again...Changed the bypass caps in the PSU and it changed again..😀
Wow...distortion reigns supreme..
Changed the coupling caps and it changed again and all with the Ledr tests..wow..
Switched to U/L and it changed again..
Put some LEDs under a tube and it changed again..no point in going any further might as well forget audio.
Regards
M. Gregg
I thought right then so I changed the cathode resistor in the driver tube in my amp and bam sound stage got wider, changed it to diodes and the shape changed again...Changed the bypass caps in the PSU and it changed again..😀
Wow...distortion reigns supreme..
Changed the coupling caps and it changed again and all with the Ledr tests..wow..
Switched to U/L and it changed again..
Put some LEDs under a tube and it changed again..no point in going any further might as well forget audio.
Regards
M. Gregg
Anybody with anything more than an Ipod dock is plain nuts.
Can you tell one of them from a record player...I bet you can't in a blind test.
I remember a blind test done with a CD player and an Ipod and they couldn't tell the difference.
What about an Ipod vs an LP12 with a record recorded with the pops etc
Bet you can't tell..
Regards
M. Gregg
Can you tell one of them from a record player...I bet you can't in a blind test.
I remember a blind test done with a CD player and an Ipod and they couldn't tell the difference.
What about an Ipod vs an LP12 with a record recorded with the pops etc
Bet you can't tell..
Regards
M. Gregg
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😀 it was just a moment of madness..it will pass..😕 (I think therefore I am)..however that would be wrong.. Surly its (I am therefore I think)...I am..
Regards
M. Gregg
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Sources start to change the direction a little bit, because there's usually more going on than just a gain stage. A more reasonable comparison would be...if someone changed the OP amp in the output stage of their ipod and claimed it was sonically superior to a stock one, while still listening to the included 14 cent headphones.
Edit: Let's be clear here, when I say amplifier, I mean proper amplifier, not wal-mart rack systems or those surround sets people sell out of the back of a truck that you always get a great deal on because the china-printed box says msrp $2500.
Let's try not to go to extremes that none of us would ever go to in order to prove a point, because I don't think anyone cares about the sonic differences between Yorx rack systems.
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Your welcome...
Where is the blind test for telling CD players apart?
And the one or record players..and the one for ...sorry 😀
I bet if your deaf you cant tell any of them apart..😀
You don't have to be completely deaf just profoundly challenged.. 🙂
Regards
M. Gregg
jan.didden
There is no need to answer M Gregg if you agree with his point of view. You should take that resounding silence as recognition of the wisdom he has already exhibited here. Same goes for John Curl, a.wayne, fas42 and many others that posted their points of view and have given you the opportunity to learn if you want to take it. The naysayers here are so convinced of the infallibility of their knowledge that this very notion of suggesting they might learn something new with a different perspective is such anathema to them, they will rather bandy about repeatedly like a bunch of coyotes rather than remain silent. It is clear that you won't convince us because we know better from our experience so we remain silent and give what has already been said a chance to sink in for those that are willing to open their mind and relax their tenets just enough to let it happen.
There is no need to answer M Gregg if you agree with his point of view. You should take that resounding silence as recognition of the wisdom he has already exhibited here. Same goes for John Curl, a.wayne, fas42 and many others that posted their points of view and have given you the opportunity to learn if you want to take it. The naysayers here are so convinced of the infallibility of their knowledge that this very notion of suggesting they might learn something new with a different perspective is such anathema to them, they will rather bandy about repeatedly like a bunch of coyotes rather than remain silent. It is clear that you won't convince us because we know better from our experience so we remain silent and give what has already been said a chance to sink in for those that are willing to open their mind and relax their tenets just enough to let it happen.
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Jan is one of those nutty guys who works off data, analysis, and evidence, rather than credulousness. Wild claims, no data, it's worthless to him- and anyone else who has a rational viewpoint.
You have to be open-minded enough to accept that indeed the answer is sometimes "nay."
You have to be open-minded enough to accept that indeed the answer is sometimes "nay."
my pleasure 🙂
By how many players is this game played? 🙄
... I do have this amazing crystal bowl... 😀
profoundly challenged?? No, shaken, not stirred...
SY
I think you underestimate jan.didden. He is closer to the center of this debate than you think and it is precisely because of his experience that he is able to understand the limitations of relying only on the numbers.
I think you underestimate jan.didden. He is closer to the center of this debate than you think and it is precisely because of his experience that he is able to understand the limitations of relying only on the numbers.
You can't call it "knowledge" and spread it around, unless it's verifiable.
We have the tools to verify claims. They don't get to sit in the first class luxury chair of "truth" until they're proven to actually be truth..by, you know, actually proving it in some other way besides the hot air coming out of the individual's mouth, until the inevitable ego-bruise leads to them taking their toys and going home.
Ideas become facts when they're tested and proven to be factual, not as a product of wish-thinking or to dodge buyer's remorse.
Science doesn't care how anyone feels.
It would be handy knowing how to make an amplifier sound good. I've made audio circuits sound good before, but at this point, after over 20 years, I'm not entirely sure how. I've also heard some of the whacked out tricks and toys make a huge difference in sound, particularly the stereo image. Most of the people who make that stuff try to explain how it works while some don't. It's not clear that any of them truly knows what is happening anyway. When it's textbook quality then it is, but that's not the end of it. Some of it is stupid expensive and some ridiculously cheap, so it's clear that money has nothing fundamental to do with it (though there are cases where that's actually all there is to it, sorry but that exists too). It's not about brand names or even the tenderness with which something is put together. Hand or machine made, whatever. Exotic materials and not. What Would be really great, and still probably beyond my capacity, is to get the scientists, engineers, and technicians to quit saying it can't work and take a good hard look at it all from a perspective that may have little to do with or be far beyond their training and experience, so that everyone can eventually understand it. My advice is do not dismiss anything because you think you've learned it can have no effect. Not everyone hears the effects, but most do if they are there, whether they believe it or not. It's not fickle and there doesn't seem to be any element of karma about it or whatever. That's been my observation, and it's a lucky bonus. But if you never take a listen and are absolutely sure nothing is going on, there is nothing you can do to help. There's truly something to be discovered here and when it Can be taught at university, well, it's probably going to be like living in a different world. Don't believe what you're going to hear. Hear it and then think. It's been historically fun to make "I know, right?" jokes in the midst of something spooky, but that's getting to be a useless, ancient human trait at this point. It's time to advance.
My wife says the same thing. But she tells me that I'm lucky that she met me first.
He (and I) don't just relay on the numbers- we are both open to someone presenting good evidence (e.g., ears-only listening test). That just hasn't happened.
The ears-only tests to date show very clearly that we humans are extraordinarily sensitive to some things, and that once those things are accounted for, the electronic portion is a solved problem. There is, to date, zero evidence to the contrary, just assertions with all the evidentiary weight of claims of alien abductions, and creative excuses about why peeking is necessary to evaluate audibility.
DrDyna
I don't want anyone to be the authority of truth, I want it to be the product of the greatest consensus but what we have now is bullying/fooling people with numbers. Reread the posts, open your mind and think about it when you're less uptight. Knowing when something isn't necessarily true also counts for something. Plato says of knowledge and ignorance, the higher than middle ground of knowledge is right opinion.
I don't want anyone to be the authority of truth, I want it to be the product of the greatest consensus but what we have now is bullying/fooling people with numbers. Reread the posts, open your mind and think about it when you're less uptight. Knowing when something isn't necessarily true also counts for something. Plato says of knowledge and ignorance, the higher than middle ground of knowledge is right opinion.
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If you want consensus, the first step is to challenge an idea by attempting to verify it. All such attempts fail, within the context of this discussion.
Plato is absolutely correct, if you assume ignorance of "facts" is a higher sin than ignorance of "feeling".
Do you realise that most of the names you so subtly drop are on my ignore list? 😉
Jan
jan.didden
If that is so, you should put me on it too.
DrDyna
He also said ignorance is above wrong opinion and wrong opinion is above knowing what is wrong. My framework lets us assume we are ignorant in order to gain real knowledge. I am doing exactly what you propose but not in the way that is comfortable to many members here. If you and others can't see how this works, why jump all over it?
If that is so, you should put me on it too.
DrDyna
He also said ignorance is above wrong opinion and wrong opinion is above knowing what is wrong. My framework lets us assume we are ignorant in order to gain real knowledge. I am doing exactly what you propose but not in the way that is comfortable to many members here. If you and others can't see how this works, why jump all over it?
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