Don't even start on microprocessor and microecomics. The world is a hard place for the literal.The lingo used is rather absurd.....micro, micro.... .
I'm afraid that KBK's and SY's posts (mostly in other threads) have been outdone and these people are serious!
Swiss Cable White Paper
http://www.swisscables.com/whitepaper/whitepaper.pdf
*MDI, micro discharge interface distortion. the micro discharge interface distortion effects
were discovered - already decades ago - by dr. pierre johannet, a researcher at the french
national electricity institute in the context of very comprehensive signal processing research.
in summary, MDI results from very steep, high-amplitude ultrasonic spikes which occur during
all electrical signal propagation. at frequencies relevant to audio, this discharge energy can
take on sine wave character with significant impact on the audio signal, and can show up as
measurable audible distortion by inter- modulation.
in addition, MDI creates positive langevin ions (electrically charged particles in the room air),
which, besides causing physical discomfort,
Swiss Cable White Paper
http://www.swisscables.com/whitepaper/whitepaper.pdf
*MDI, micro discharge interface distortion. the micro discharge interface distortion effects
were discovered - already decades ago - by dr. pierre johannet, a researcher at the french
national electricity institute in the context of very comprehensive signal processing research.
in summary, MDI results from very steep, high-amplitude ultrasonic spikes which occur during
all electrical signal propagation. at frequencies relevant to audio, this discharge energy can
take on sine wave character with significant impact on the audio signal, and can show up as
measurable audible distortion by inter- modulation.
in addition, MDI creates positive langevin ions (electrically charged particles in the room air),
which, besides causing physical discomfort,
That pretty well fits with my experience. Roadies have a bad rep, but many aren't Neanderthals. Front of house mix guys on the other hand..... 😉That said, they'll all have an opinion on the sound (coming from a variously experienced background), maybe not expressed in audiophile terms, but valid nonetheless.
I'm afraid that KBK's and SY's posts (mostly in other threads) have been outdone and these people are serious!
With all due respect, not enough gibberish, just the same dreary recycled "audiophile" blah blah. KBK is the master, these guys aren't even in the same league.
KBK is the master, these guys aren't even in the same league.
KBK's posts are enjoyable.
..."MDI creates positive langevin ions which, besides causing physical discomfort, have been found to obstruct natural sound field propagation"...
So....besides being in physical discomfort, my music is being "obstructed"?
Hmmmmm...........I had one of those De-ionizers once upon a time, the one with the 'trigger' to shoot at my records so they wouldn't attract dust particles floating about. Perhaps one now has to "sweep" the listening area so my sound isn't "obstructed". However.....the quote is "natural sound", well, my music IS artificially produced , not natural. How does that work?
____________________________________________________Rick..........
So....besides being in physical discomfort, my music is being "obstructed"?
Hmmmmm...........I had one of those De-ionizers once upon a time, the one with the 'trigger' to shoot at my records so they wouldn't attract dust particles floating about. Perhaps one now has to "sweep" the listening area so my sound isn't "obstructed". However.....the quote is "natural sound", well, my music IS artificially produced , not natural. How does that work?
____________________________________________________Rick..........
Yes that s the one! And good luck finding the homepage!
Guys, I accidentally located the Pleiades HQ! It is in my hometown!

Uhh Huh
Metallurgy
"copper based custom alloy, produced by advanced casting in protective gas environment"
Translation :
inert gas furnace to avoid oxygen uptake: industry routine
"Tempered to resonance-optimized hardness,"
Translation :
annealed to drawing temper: industry routine
"Conductor surface treated for optimal field propagation, signal flow and energy transfer."
Translation :
drawn through dies to produce wire form factor: routine, self evident
So they basically are paraphrasing normal wire production, so it's a load of hooey, catchy phrases saying nothing
I'm afraid that KBK's and SY's posts (mostly in other threads) have been outdone and these people are serious!
Swiss Cable White Paper
http://www.swisscables.com/whitepaper/whitepaper.pdf
*MDI, micro discharge interface distortion. the micro discharge interface distortion effects
were discovered - already decades ago - by dr. pierre johannet, a researcher at the french
national electricity institute in the context of very comprehensive signal processing research.
in summary, MDI results from very steep, high-amplitude ultrasonic spikes which occur during
all electrical signal propagation. at frequencies relevant to audio, this discharge energy can
take on sine wave character with significant impact on the audio signal, and can show up as
measurable audible distortion by inter- modulation.
in addition, MDI creates positive langevin ions (electrically charged particles in the room air),
which, besides causing physical discomfort,
Metallurgy
"copper based custom alloy, produced by advanced casting in protective gas environment"
Translation :
inert gas furnace to avoid oxygen uptake: industry routine
"Tempered to resonance-optimized hardness,"
Translation :
annealed to drawing temper: industry routine
"Conductor surface treated for optimal field propagation, signal flow and energy transfer."
Translation :
drawn through dies to produce wire form factor: routine, self evident
So they basically are paraphrasing normal wire production, so it's a load of hooey, catchy phrases saying nothing
(isn't that usually the way to spot someone without hands-on experience in an industry routine environment)
But it's true, right? 🙂So they basically are paraphrasing normal wire production, so it's a load of hooey, catchy phrases saying nothing
Not really
IMO, at best it's obfuscatory... misleading psuedoengineeringpsychobabble, non parsimonious hyperbole to support fake superiority
Occam's Razor should perhaps apply wrt normal-speak
But it's true, right? 🙂
IMO, at best it's obfuscatory... misleading psuedoengineeringpsychobabble, non parsimonious hyperbole to support fake superiority
Occam's Razor should perhaps apply wrt normal-speak
If you say things which are true, but deeply misleading, then it makes it easier for a lawyer to defend you in the event of a complaint. Loudly proclaiming as a plus point some feature which is always necessarily true for all products of that type is a common trick - the personal finance industry often employs it.
Talking about new ideas is easy - scientists do it all the time. The trick is clarity, not obfuscation. The trick only works if the idea has some merit; if not, obfuscation is the best bet.
PS the new idea might be wrong - clarity will help in determining this. Many new ideas are wrong, but those which appear to have merit are worth considering. In order to have time to do this it is necessary to ignore new ideas which are without merit.
PS the new idea might be wrong - clarity will help in determining this. Many new ideas are wrong, but those which appear to have merit are worth considering. In order to have time to do this it is necessary to ignore new ideas which are without merit.
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Give me a break! How CAN people talk about new ideas?
I would say by using common language and proper technical terminology, by doing some initial tests, the results of which they would be willing to discuss with others.
George
Ohhh, I got a good one fer ya.
I once read that you have to regularly subject cables to DC...you know, to replace the old electrons, with fresh ones...![]()
Yes that makes sense Ha! Its like replacing the old worn out air in your car tires every year or so,you cant be too careful you know!
Ha but which end do you feed the electrons back in to? 🙂
Isn't that where the arrow on the cable is for??
The user manual of my cable reads : insert the end, indicated by an arrow, up your noise. (doesn't say whether to blow or sniff though, typical)
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