Hi guys,
I'm considering a pair of bookshelves to pair with my LMS5400 subs. Planning of using a RAAL 70-20XR as a tweeter. Can someone compare/contrast the
offerings such as:
Accuton c173-6-096e
Accuton c90-6-078
Audio Technology C-Quenze 18 H 52 17 06 SD
ScanSpeak Illuminator 18WU/4741T-00
ScanSpeak Revelator 18W/8531G-00
Links below
http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...e-6.5-ceramic-cone-woofer/midrange-neodymium/
http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-5-midrange/accuton-c90-6-078-5-ceramic-dome-midrange/
http://www.audiotechnology.dk/iz.asp?id=4|a|135|||
http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...eak-illuminator-18wu/4741t-00-7-woofer-4-ohm/
http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...ak-revelator-18w/8531g-00-7-mid-woofer-8-ohm/
Which would you use with the RAAL 70-20XR?
I'm also open to a 3way as well to pair with the existing subs.
Thanks all!
I'm considering a pair of bookshelves to pair with my LMS5400 subs. Planning of using a RAAL 70-20XR as a tweeter. Can someone compare/contrast the
offerings such as:
Accuton c173-6-096e
Accuton c90-6-078
Audio Technology C-Quenze 18 H 52 17 06 SD
ScanSpeak Illuminator 18WU/4741T-00
ScanSpeak Revelator 18W/8531G-00
Links below
http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...e-6.5-ceramic-cone-woofer/midrange-neodymium/
http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-5-midrange/accuton-c90-6-078-5-ceramic-dome-midrange/
http://www.audiotechnology.dk/iz.asp?id=4|a|135|||
http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...eak-illuminator-18wu/4741t-00-7-woofer-4-ohm/
http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...ak-revelator-18w/8531g-00-7-mid-woofer-8-ohm/
Which would you use with the RAAL 70-20XR?
I'm also open to a 3way as well to pair with the existing subs.
Thanks all!
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That's *supposed* to be an OEM only tweeter. 😱
You can get it with certain kits though..
Speaker Kits
Considering sub-use and baffle step loss, I'd probably go with an MTM using a pair of 6ND430-16 per loudspeaker.
Nice, the ScanSpeak revelator seems to measure quite well according to zaphs page. I'm surprised they aren't implemented in some of those vapor designs too.
i think its a matter of business decision.
as many offers scan drivers already.
those are few of the best drivers in the world today complement with well designed enclosures.
i have never heard of them, but they are gaining alot of popularity these days
as many offers scan drivers already.
those are few of the best drivers in the world today complement with well designed enclosures.
i have never heard of them, but they are gaining alot of popularity these days
I'd recommend either the SS 8531 or AT C-Quenze. Both are excellent smooth, full and dynamic sounding drivers which have the ability to create a highly involving presentation when implemented correctly.
I've only used the smaller Illuminator (4-inch), however, TBH I wasn't hugely impressed, although this could be put down to application. Similarly, I found the D3004 Illuminator to be a step down from some of the revelator series of tweeters, such as the 2904's.
The Accuton's are a great driver, but I preferred the Revelator's and AT over them in terms of general musicality.
I've only used the smaller Illuminator (4-inch), however, TBH I wasn't hugely impressed, although this could be put down to application. Similarly, I found the D3004 Illuminator to be a step down from some of the revelator series of tweeters, such as the 2904's.
The Accuton's are a great driver, but I preferred the Revelator's and AT over them in terms of general musicality.
The LMS-5400 is begging for a speaker that can keep up with it, and I dunno what will. You will definitely want a 3-way for good dispersion in the upper mids.
Perhaps
- DUAL Seas W22NY001 100hz to 700hz
- DUAL BG Neo8 700 to 2.4khz
- RAAL 70-20XR 2.5khz up
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Hey Docks your system sounds familiar 🙂
Firstly great choice of tweeter, after clocking up a number of hours on my monopole RAAL 140-15D AM and now my dipole 140-15 AM, I can tell you no matter which one you choose it is going to sound great.
Ok lets establish a few parameters before making any suggestions.
What sort of music do you typically listen to?
Are you space limited or did you just want something smaller?
Did you listen to the LMS5400 out of the box at all? I run the Pro 5100 as a woofer in an open baffle, and it sounds great, but it bearly moves unlike when you put them in a cabinet.
I should probably mention I plan to buy at least one LMS5400 for a sub.
Firstly great choice of tweeter, after clocking up a number of hours on my monopole RAAL 140-15D AM and now my dipole 140-15 AM, I can tell you no matter which one you choose it is going to sound great.
Ok lets establish a few parameters before making any suggestions.
What sort of music do you typically listen to?
Are you space limited or did you just want something smaller?
Did you listen to the LMS5400 out of the box at all? I run the Pro 5100 as a woofer in an open baffle, and it sounds great, but it bearly moves unlike when you put them in a cabinet.
I should probably mention I plan to buy at least one LMS5400 for a sub.
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Nice choices for drivers. What's a guy to do????
I've gotten some close up time with 3 of the 5 on your list. I use the 5.25" Scan Rev as the mid in my 3-way and know how clean those Revelator mids can be. But for the cleanest midrange presentation since you already know you're using subs, would be the Accuton C173.
That's what Vapor is using in the Cirrus White which was posted by _Henry_. The AT C-Quenze is marvelous as well. That's what we use for the Cirrus Black. Its advantage over the Accuton is in the region below 100Hz, but otherwise, the Accuton just delivers that tiny bit more resolution in the region above 100Hz. It's also the most sensitive among the group you list, and there's just that extra bit of dynamic attack as a result. That and the 70-20XR make an incredibly resolving and musical pairing. And those black dots really do keep that cone under excellent control. It was relatively easy to work with.
The other woofers on the list would be my choice over the Accuton if they were needed to produce output below 100Hz. But if your subs are capable of higher frequency operation, then go Accuton.
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I've done two builds with the SS 8531: one 2 way and one 2.5 way.
Depending on the cabinet volume you are looking to make, it is a mistake to consider this speaker solely as a mid-range. They move a tremendous amount of air.
You might consider a smaller SS driver if your subs are serious.
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Depending on the cabinet volume you are looking to make, it is a mistake to consider this speaker solely as a mid-range. They move a tremendous amount of air.
You might consider a smaller SS driver if your subs are serious.
P
With Accuton drivers you can match impedances as Raal has a possibility to switch beetwen 6-9-12 ohms and Accutons are 6 ohms. They are also the closest in sensitivity: 92db vs. 90 db. In my opinion the ceramic membrane is also the fastest match to ribbon in terms of speed. But I may be wrong about it. But I would choose only that one particular Accuton driver over the rest. The C173-6-096E has the best impedance curve of all C173.
The C-Quenze is the more versatile. Great bass output and phenomenal mids, plenty resolving but not quite the "bite" and attack that the Accuton possesses. Only if you're using a sub would I choose the Accuton. As a midbass in a two-way, C-Quenze all the way.
Audiotech 10" Sandwich Flex Unit
Accuton C173-6-090
RAAL 140-15D
Awesome dedicated mid. Absolutely stunning realism.
C-Quenze 18H and RAAL 70-20XR. Nice full range monitor.
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