I am looking for 100 units. I haven't contacted Eminence yet for, I wanted see my other options.
Catalogue drivers designed these days focus on what the market wants… small compact boxes. After 20 years of trying nearly every pro audio loudspeaker brand on the market, I’ve realised what I want requires TS Parameters that stem from drivers designed 30-40 years ago.
Fortunately, I have some old speakers (By Eminence) from that era that has the TS Parameters I am seeking upon measuring them in LIMP. It just makes logical sense to have my driver’s custom designed to my requirements considering the quantity I need instead of settling for what is offered off-the-shelf.
Fortunately, I have some old speakers (By Eminence) from that era that has the TS Parameters I am seeking upon measuring them in LIMP. It just makes logical sense to have my driver’s custom designed to my requirements considering the quantity I need instead of settling for what is offered off-the-shelf.
When you use quantity, trying to extract every bit of SPL out of one loudspeaker is not first priority. Think of it as many who used to tote large amounts of piezo tweeters in the 1970’s – 1980’s. Only the small guy using 2 – 4 piezo tweeters found them selves burning up their tweeters trying to extract every ounce of SPL from the driver. The majority of raw pro audio 18-inch drivers deliver the same amount of maximum SPL once you weed away the marketing hype.
There is a differential on where the maximum SPL resides per frequency per driver, in addition how much amplification is needed in order to achieve the given SPL. However, the majority of raw 18-inch pro audio drivers offer a 1-2 dB deviation amongst one another which, only matters to those using very few loudspeakers.
My objective is the frequency response, in addition to how little equalisation is needed to in order achieve the low frequency extension. So that reflects back to the TS Parameters of the driver. One of the benefits of building large cabinets is, the ability to see the limitation of the driver’s frequency response.
I’ve already created a few prototypes dabbling with the TS Parameters in Eminence Designer so I know exactly what I want. Anyone who’s designed cabinets personal use for over 10 years should be able to design their own loudspeaker based on their requirements.
The link you provided does not work by the way…
I think it would be best to contact Eminence as they have decades of experience making OEM loudspeakers to the customer’s needs.
There is a differential on where the maximum SPL resides per frequency per driver, in addition how much amplification is needed in order to achieve the given SPL. However, the majority of raw 18-inch pro audio drivers offer a 1-2 dB deviation amongst one another which, only matters to those using very few loudspeakers.
My objective is the frequency response, in addition to how little equalisation is needed to in order achieve the low frequency extension. So that reflects back to the TS Parameters of the driver. One of the benefits of building large cabinets is, the ability to see the limitation of the driver’s frequency response.
I’ve already created a few prototypes dabbling with the TS Parameters in Eminence Designer so I know exactly what I want. Anyone who’s designed cabinets personal use for over 10 years should be able to design their own loudspeaker based on their requirements.
The link you provided does not work by the way…
I think it would be best to contact Eminence as they have decades of experience making OEM loudspeakers to the customer’s needs.
So what do you want to build here, a wall of woofers? Those early drivers would give you extension all right, but in large boxes and would hit excursion limits at 100 watts. Granted, there aren't as many of them around today but you can still get them. They're just not top of the line anymore. If you get them built custom, they'll still have the same limitations. They made sense when the biggest amp anyone who wasn't a millionaire could obtain was a CS800.
If you're already willing to lug around a ton or two of boxes, a proper horn stack will eat a wall of woofers for lunch. 8 lab horns doesn't require ANY low frequency "EQ", other than delay on the outer boxes to shape the beam at 80 Hz. A wall of woofers would be larger, and much worse in that regard. And if you were to redesign around a modern driver, God help the neighborhood.
So, summarizing you r looking for an alu coil 18-inch pro audio driver with very low extension.
What type of enclosure are you using for it? (Horns, BR, TH)
Provide some assistance here.
If you are a company that has experience making OEM Pro Audio Speakers contact me via pm with the company's name and, I will research your company’s credibility through the Better Business Bureau.
The whole idea of OEM is keeping things private with the customer and the manufacture. I am not going to go into detail any further than what I expressed in my previous post in public.
Don’t take it personal, its just business.
I'm not affiliated, sorry.
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Hi, One would only use Eminence to produce cheap MI or DJ store speakers. Eminence uses the worlds cheapest voice coils. Any real Pro PA system would use B and C, 18Sound, Beyma, etc............I think that oversized boxes with low power woofers would have a limited market; home or pro. VECTORDJ
You have *no* idea of what Eminence is.
Your very prejudiced and poorly researched comment shows it.
Eminence will build what you need, with a corresponding price tag.
If you want cheap .... well .... *you* asked for it
They can very well build World class speakers .... only they probably don't see it such a good Market for them.
From what I see, they are comfortable with matching Celestions in the MI area, and EV for PA.
It's probably not cost effective for them to fly higher.
Fine with me.
They certainly have survived cutthroat competition for many years, they can't be very poor Business Managers
For what Omnifex wants, they should be the first choice, both trusty and economic.
*Maybe* there's some Chinese company which matches their quality at a somewhat lower price, but certainly it won't be interested in "just 100".
As of
, Omnifex seems to have pre-sold 100 of them, so .....
Hi, To the above; I ran a OEM speaker cab company for years and years. We sold 1000s and 1000s of Eminence loaded DJ cabs. LTI, EXPO, EB.com, and many more. Look up LTI in the blue book and see all the models. These where sold at music stores and thur online outlets. In the local market my company has reconed 100s and 100s of speakers. Compare B and C TBX100 18 to an Eminence 18. While both look like woofers on the outside it is the inside that counts. The B and C can handle pounding pants flapping power levels with ease for the long term. The Eminence single spider gives up with high power. The Kapton plastic coil former gets soft and deforms with super power techno music. The Eminence is priced very good at OEM but is not real Pro PA. Eminence for entry level. Same story with high drivers. Bye, VECTORDJ
I have to agree. I also want to add that this is one of the most odd threads to come here in a while. The strange vague nature of the posts and lack of industry knowledge from the topic creator could suggest that if he's planning a startup of yet another speaker brand in this unsettled economic climate, he may wish to reconsider. Along with this, virtually any Qts, Vas, Fs and XMax combination is already available on the open market.
"virtually any Qts, Vas, Fs and XMax combination is already available on the open market. "
Not really, and at what price?
I have had several different drivers made on an OEM basis, from a couple of different manufacturers. Eminence is probably the best for lower initial volume requirements, most require 250 pieces (or more).
Not really, and at what price?
I have had several different drivers made on an OEM basis, from a couple of different manufacturers. Eminence is probably the best for lower initial volume requirements, most require 250 pieces (or more).
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