Pass Labs knows the reason or philosophy. Evident as a clearcut separation between the pleasure of audio DIY, and the profitable business of Pass Labs. A schematic of a successful commercial amp, or to be one is bread and butter. I look at a schematic and see glass, while another values it as a free diamond to mine and to easily profit from.If he felt this way, He would have released the schematics of his amps, like XA, XA.5, M2, J2. He has not done so. There is a reason.
If he felt this way, He would have released the schematics of his
amps, like XA, XA.5, M2, J2. He has not done so. There is a reason.
There is a reason. The primary income of myself and my partners depends
on the distribution of Pass Labs product, and it is clear that distribution does
not want to see cloning in their markets. They are the customers, and
always right 🙂
At the same time, FW doesn't worry about business volume so much, so the
policy is more lax. That said, I have stopped issuing "official" schematics for
active FW product, and remain content with spreading enough breadcrumbs
so that you guys can figure it out for yourselves. Experience is that the
cloners want to steal official schematics. If it says "ZM" in the corner, not
so much.....
Besides, a little thinking is good for you.
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Zen Mod. Your comment about no transformers in the lower box is perplexing. .......
yup ;
and just because Pa is even worse cheapskate than you can imagine , he's using bi-phase mains connection in XS , that way needing thinner wires and less amps in audio-grade fuses

Besides, a little thinking is good for you.
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But it hurts😀
If it says "ZM" in the corner, not
so much.....
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Experience is that the cloners want to steal official schematics. If it says "ZM" in the corner, not
so much.....
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Ain't noooooooooooooooo body gonna want to do a clone of a ZM clone....






a clone of a clone
Yeah, suppose every pimp walked around in a fur coat, how would that look ?
Am I right or am I right.
Whatever its practices are, they are meant to protect itself from the other big Audio players
There you're wrong, you'd be surprised how many official schematics and/or SM's are floating, of active IP. The regular competition is not the issue.
ZM may become a Registered Wastemark of FW.
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Yeah, suppose every pimp walked around in a fur coat, how would that look ?
Am I right or am I right.
Nooooooooooo - I said a clone of a ZM clone.... Not even the pimps would try to sell that on the street corner because they know that ZM would use baby diyAudio site to put out the word and track 'em down..... 😀😀😀
Wastemark made me laugh. I agree with your valid comments above. While working for Rohm and Haas Co, it was more worried about the small-time competition than the regulars like BASF or Dupont or 3M. The latter's legitimate competing technologies were a challenge, and they didn't bother to infringe on live patents of others.There you're wrong, you'd be surprised how many official schematics and/or SM's are floating, of active IP. The regular competition is not the issue.
The post above by Mr. Pass may be understood as a Mission Statement. Best used by audio DIYers to guide and calibrate their attendant needs, wants, and expectations of Mr. Pass. He's got serious businesses to run.
Amusingly, it does not appear that any cloner actually bought the product
and reverse engineered it.
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and reverse engineered it.
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I was just going through my change drum. If only those IOU's were any good. You dont take IOU's do you? It seems to be wriiten by a fella named Choky. Said you would vouch for him.
diy ACA is protected by the last active patent of Pass Labs. Go ahead cloners; make my day. Show me and/or the high end audio community your commercial [maybe more powerful, and/or improved] clones of my baby diamond.Amusingly, it does not appear that any cloner actually bought the product
and reverse engineered it.
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Bigger blanks versus bigger guns.
(shooting with a checkbook does make cleaner holes, much more "civillainised" than the dark alley)
(shooting with a checkbook does make cleaner holes, much more "civillainised" than the dark alley)
diy ACA is protected by the last active patent of Pass Labs. Go ahead cloners; make my day. Show me and/or the high end audio community your commercial [maybe more powerful, and/or improved] clones of my baby diamond.
I beleieve that would be the "amp with active current source". That appears to have been filled in 96 and granted in 98. 15 years ago 😉
But I don't see the association? That is the Aleph Patent 😀
Fortunately for Pass Labs, and FirstWatt, commercial cloners do/did not appear to give a damn about cloning their products. Despite the abundant and overwhelming published technology by Mr. Pass. Even the legitimate cloning of products via their expired patents. I agree with you that patents have their limitations. Win or lose or abandon, patent lawyers always get rich.Good luck with the patent thing. Especially after figuring in cost of lawyers.
A kit of diy ACA is sold to audio DIYers, and thus readily accessible to wannabe commercial cloners. On? or after 1995, the lifetime of US patents begins from the date of filing and continues for the next twenty years.I beleieve that would be the "amp with active current source". That appears to have been filled in 96 and granted in 98. 15 years ago 😉
But I don't see the association? That is the Aleph Patent 😀
Antoinel - last patented is what you can see on top of enclosed pic ; that's Aleph CCS
ACA is nowhere near that ; ok - just one/two caps & resistors difference , but that's huge difference
ACA is nowhere near that ; ok - just one/two caps & resistors difference , but that's huge difference

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