son almost shot by 6 cops

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Im so pissed. My son was walking out of his apt building in santa monica with a empty bottle of shampoo in his hand headed for the store across the street....6 cops draw their guns and say put the gun down or we will shoot. My son was arrested on a gun charge, He called me....I called my brother in law who is a cpt in the NY state police, I cal my brother who is a major in the NJ corrections system...they both use their liaison connection and get this cleared up. Case of mistaken identity ........hours later ....the real gun flashing public menace get apprehended flashing a pistol. Any one of the six cops could have pull the trigger and have said they thought they saw a gun. Moral of the story.....make sure your love ones know who they can call in case they get caught in these types of sand traps.
 
^ wot he said. If you live in a society that worships guns and some perverted concept of liberty based on your right to "stand your ground" amongst other lunacy, this is what you get.

The cops aren't the problem - theirs is just a natural reaction to knowing every idiot in town is potentially tooled up to the eyeballs. In that situation, aggressive over-reacting is a straight self-preservation technique.
 
Nonsense, the cops are a problem - making assumptions, presumptions and then acting upon them.

You don't have cops acting like this in a place where everyone lives in fear, or ignorance and bliss, because the place is a tyrannical police state, and nobody has any guns. See: Singapore. No guns or rights.

They've pretty much stripped Americans of most rights, freedoms and liberties as of this date.

Enjoy.

_-_-bear
 
Not to sound unsympathetic but it's your son's second amendment right to keep and bear arms. Therefore if he exercises that right he'll get shot.

Regards,
Dan

^ wot he said. If you live in a society that worships guns and some perverted concept of liberty based on your right to "stand your ground" amongst other lunacy, this is what you get.

The cops aren't the problem - theirs is just a natural reaction to knowing every idiot in town is potentially tooled up to the eyeballs. In that situation, aggressive over-reacting is a straight self-preservation technique.

Both of you are clueless , stupid cops kill people ..🙄
One of these days...I'd like to meet Bear...over a couple of beers

Bear and Beers .....🙂
 
winning argument - USA should be compared to Columbia in all issues.

Reality is that USA has THE highest rate of death and injury by firearms in the developed world. Your firearm laws have helped to get to over 340,000 firearm deaths in the USA in the last 10 years.

"Never mind the drive-bys, the accidental homicides, the random schoolchildren hit by stray gunfire. The statistics began to speak for themselves: Every year there are 30,000 gun deaths and 300,000 gun-related assaults in the U.S. As PBS's Bill Moyers points out in an excellent commentary, far more Americans have been casualties of domestic gunfire than have died in all our wars combined."

30,000 gun deaths a year - 10 times the 9/11 attack EVERY YEAR.

Guns, legal and otherwise, cause more deaths in the USA than drugs and terrorism combined by an order of magnitude. You die of gunshot wounds at around 4 times the rate of your closest developed world competitor.

If that's safe, you have an odd definition of it...

In that environment - and from the outside let me tell you that we see this as not too far from being in a war zone - I again think it entirely appropriate for your law enforcement agencies to act like bullies and to presume guilt. Its hte only way for them to stay alive. This isn't to say that this is a good thing. Just that it is a realistic reaction to the situation.
 
winning argument - USA should be compared to Columbia in all issues.

Reality is that USA has THE highest rate of death and injury by firearms in the developed world. Your firearm laws have helped to get to over 340,000 firearm deaths in the USA in the last 10 years.

"Never mind the drive-bys, the accidental homicides, the random schoolchildren hit by stray gunfire. The statistics began to speak for themselves: Every year there are 30,000 gun deaths and 300,000 gun-related assaults in the U.S. As PBS's Bill Moyers points out in an excellent commentary, far more Americans have been casualties of domestic gunfire than have died in all our wars combined."

30,000 gun deaths a year - 10 times the 9/11 attack EVERY YEAR.

Guns, legal and otherwise, cause more deaths in the USA than drugs and terrorism combined by an order of magnitude. You die of gunshot wounds at around 4 times the rate of your closest developed world competitor.

If that's safe, you have an odd definition of it...

In that environment - and from the outside let me tell you that we see this as not too far from being in a war zone - I again think it entirely appropriate for your law enforcement agencies to act like bullies and to presume guilt. Its hte only way for them to stay alive. This isn't to say that this is a good thing. Just that it is a realistic reaction to the situation.



War zone , As I said before , clueless ...🙄


Firearm murder rate drops, knives main weapon - National - smh.com.au

Knives for guns ...:cheers:
 
yeah that's funny, " I again think it entirely appropriate for your law enforcement agencies to act like bullies..."aardvarkash10,
I had some sherriffs dept. guy almost ram My vehicle the other night making a u-trun on a long stretch of road into My vehicle from the opposite direction, what was really funny is I checked My mirrors again and not a thing in sight, looked back nothing, I rather enjoy it when they try to act like bullies... I guess he was late for his flight..
 
if you say so.

Personal characterisations aside though, here's some data put together by health authorities in the USA. It makes sobering reading. Compare USA gun death rates with other countries - the only ones that come close are south american, and the wild end of that region to boot.

Something to be proud of isn't it.

Knives v guns? Don't make me laugh. Columbine etc could never have occurred without firearms -and lots of them. You MIGHT knife one or two people but it takes more skill, more commitment and more involvement than firearms.

For sure, there would be SOME substitution effect, but the almost always fatal nature of the gun is such that even if every gun crime was replaced by a knife crime, the damage would still be significantly less. Thats why wars are fought with firearms and not spears these days.

BTW, New Zealand is not Australia. Its bit like the USA/Canada thing.
 
winning argument - USA should be compared to Columbia in all issues.

Reality is that USA has THE highest rate of death and injury by firearms in the developed world. Your firearm laws have helped to get to over 340,000 firearm deaths in the USA in the last 10 years.

"Never mind the drive-bys, the accidental homicides, the random schoolchildren hit by stray gunfire. The statistics began to speak for themselves: Every year there are 30,000 gun deaths and 300,000 gun-related assaults in the U.S. As PBS's Bill Moyers points out in an excellent commentary, far more Americans have been casualties of domestic gunfire than have died in all our wars combined."

30,000 gun deaths a year - 10 times the 9/11 attack EVERY YEAR.

Guns, legal and otherwise, cause more deaths in the USA than drugs and terrorism combined by an order of magnitude. You die of gunshot wounds at around 4 times the rate of your closest developed world competitor.

If that's safe, you have an odd definition of it...

In that environment - and from the outside let me tell you that we see this as not too far from being in a war zone - I again think it entirely appropriate for your law enforcement agencies to act like bullies and to presume guilt. Its hte only way for them to stay alive. This isn't to say that this is a good thing. Just that it is a realistic reaction to the situation.

Watch "Bowling for Columine" if you're interested. Unfortunately, it's not the guns, it's the Americans. If it were the guns, the Swiss would have triple the gun deaths per capita as the USA, but of course that's not the case.
 
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