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Microphones ?

Hi Max Vol

Don't know what kind of live music you do, but

I have recently got 3 microphones made in China for the Californian microphone company SE electronics.

They are all condenser microphones, and are all exellent sounding mics.
They are:-
A matched pair of small diaphram condensers, SE-1a's &
A large diaphram multi-pattern mic, the SE-Z3300a.

Their not cheap, but not exactly expensive either, and to be quite honest my opinion is that you would be hard pushed to find anything better even at 1000's of £$'s.

Whilst these might be considered 'studio' mics, plenty of condenser mics are used on quality stage set up's, and results often depend on the type/vol of the music and the kind of space the venue is.

I would totaly recommend these mics on sound quality & build quality.

I am currently making a clone of the classic AKG of Austria C-12 valve microphone, and just the capsule for this mic clone cost me as much as the 2 matched SE-1a's.

Send me some MP3's of your music if you have some, would love to hear it.

the.space.egg.corporation@gmail.com

Cheers Simon...:cool::eguitar:
 
sir space egg,

i do live band music, i'm presently using the china made shure sm 58. can u advice me what to use? is a condenser mic ideal for vocal in live band music?

I would say not, condensors aren't really very good for live vocals - personally I mostly use the cheap Behringer mikes, they come in a pack of three for very little money and I've found them absolutely excellent.

I originally bought the first three Behringer mikes for an emergency gig, where I had to cobble gear together unexpectedly - the plan was to buy a real SM58 for lead vocals at a later date. However, the cheap Behringers sound so good I decided it was just a waste of money, so bought more Behringers instead.
 
I would say not, condensors aren't really very good for live vocals - personally I mostly use the cheap Behringer mikes, they come in a pack of three for very little money and I've found them absolutely excellent.

I originally bought the first three Behringer mikes for an emergency gig, where I had to cobble gear together unexpectedly - the plan was to buy a real SM58 for lead vocals at a later date. However, the cheap Behringers sound so good I decided it was just a waste of money, so bought more Behringers instead.

thanks sir, i supposed to buy that behringer pack of three before but i was tempted to buy the warfdale instead, i am not really satisfied with it. . . i will then buy that pack. . . thanks
 
thanks sir, i supposed to buy that behringer pack of three before but i was tempted to buy the warfdale instead, i am not really satisfied with it. . . i will then buy that pack. . . thanks

I've got two of the packs of three, they cost about £18 in the UK - I also bought a single Behringer mike, at about £18 for one - but I can't say I can tell any difference.
 
Yes, large diaphram condensers for studio, hypercard dynamics for live. 2 reasons: (niether being direct sound quality) durability and directionality, the sm 58s for vocals 57s for instruments ( folklore has it that if you cant find a hammer you can use the sm57, theres lots of them out there still sounding great after dozens of hits with drum sticks) these are the reasons you see them (often 20 years old) so often at gigs. Dont know much about the behringers but Ild like to see how well they stand up to micing a snare drum for a few years. The other thing is leakage, record some vocals with a 58 next to one of the behringers and see how much of the rest of the band leaks into them. The more leakage you have the muddier the mix will be.
 
Yes, large diaphram condensers for studio, hypercard dynamics for live. 2 reasons: (niether being direct sound quality) durability and directionality, the sm 58s for vocals 57s for instruments ( folklore has it that if you cant find a hammer you can use the sm57, theres lots of them out there still sounding great after dozens of hits with drum sticks) these are the reasons you see them (often 20 years old) so often at gigs. Dont know much about the behringers but Ild like to see how well they stand up to micing a snare drum for a few years. The other thing is leakage, record some vocals with a 58 next to one of the behringers and see how much of the rest of the band leaks into them. The more leakage you have the muddier the mix will be.

You can afford to throw a LOT of Behringer mikes away for the cost of one Shure :D

Incidently, the SM57 and SM58 are almost identical, and I seem to recall you can easily make one into the other - but I can't remember which way it was?.

I don't have an SM58 to compare, but I've had no muddy vocal problems with the Behringers. If you've got the money, then buy Shure - if you don't then a cheap Behringer will approach it's performance at a tiny fraction of the price.

I used a lot of Shure Unidyne's years back, and they never seemed to last, the inserts used to go duff - low gain, poor quality - perhaps it was too much drum stick battering! :D
 
but I've had no muddy vocal problems with the Behringers.

Like I said, I dont know the Behringers, they may have as tight a pickup pattern as the shures. Its not the vocals that get muddy its the stuff that leaks into the mic (drums, guitars etc.) not only from the amps but from the stage monitors and even the PA. (can also cause feedback) When you run these thru your mixer and ad them again from the vocal mic they can get muddy, or even phasey depending on the relative loudness. (depends on how loud and close the singer is to the mike) Another plus for shure is they can handle a lot of SPL.
 
Like I said, I dont know the Behringers, they may have as tight a pickup pattern as the shures. Its not the vocals that get muddy its the stuff that leaks into the mic (drums, guitars etc.) not only from the amps but from the stage monitors and even the PA. (can also cause feedback) When you run these thru your mixer and ad them again from the vocal mic they can get muddy, or even phasey depending on the relative loudness. (depends on how loud and close the singer is to the mike) Another plus for shure is they can handle a lot of SPL.

Like I said, I've had no problems at all - and have miked drums (played VERY loud) with them - you certainly need to use the attenuator on the mixer :D

They seem a nice cheap alternative if you can't afford SM58's.
 
Chinese Live Sound Mics

Condensers are no good for live sound?!?!?!? HORSEPUCKY!!!! I have been using 'em ( AKG, Neuman, EV and Shure )for 25 years (I am a soundman by trade), and they do just fine. As for cheap chinese mics that sound ok? Avlex, MiPro, TEV are three brands that come to mind. All depends on budget.
 
Chinese Microphone

Dear All,

Right now most of the Condenser Microphone in the world use the Chinese Capsule .
As the usual tupe MIC capsule with inner capcitance used in doorbell ring, telephone,and the others.
Right now most of our customers use the large diaphram Condenser Capsules to make the broadcasting type Microphone and the audio output are more better than usual type.

Uni-ECM-LX14063N can be used in Guitar .

B.Regards
Gary



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