I'll qualify that- most commercial music sucks. There are artists out there that are truly concerned about their craft and have not succombed to the idea that if its trendy it's good. Props go out to all those independant and innovative artists out there that still make that decision between studio time and something to eat.
I guess my dislike stems from my older kid's 'musical' preferences. Lady Gaga, Chris Brown, Rhea and others of that ilk that proliferate the airwaves. If it requires an auto tuner- it ain't music. Even Kid Rock could figure that one out shunning the auto-tuner after one hit before anyone knew what an auto-tuner was
I grew up innundated with Bob Seger, Lynnrd Skynnrd, AC/DC, etc. What a joy it was to discover The Buzzcocks, Sex Pistols, and the Boomtown Rats when given the opportunity to dj at our college radio station. Ultimately- pirated music has allowed me to go back and recover a lot of the older and out of print music that would need to be specially ordered otherwise. And a chance to enjoy todays crop of talented idie musicians without the cost of failed expirementation.
FWIW: I discovered Squirrel Nut Zippers while sampling some of their wares off of Napster years ago- I ended up purchasing nearly all their cd's as a result so Suck on That One RIAA!!!!
"You're listening to WMPG, 90.9: alternative music for alternative people coming at you in 50 power house pounding watts. We're coming up to local campus happenings at the top of the hour but first here's a cut from English Beat..."
I guess my dislike stems from my older kid's 'musical' preferences. Lady Gaga, Chris Brown, Rhea and others of that ilk that proliferate the airwaves. If it requires an auto tuner- it ain't music. Even Kid Rock could figure that one out shunning the auto-tuner after one hit before anyone knew what an auto-tuner was
I grew up innundated with Bob Seger, Lynnrd Skynnrd, AC/DC, etc. What a joy it was to discover The Buzzcocks, Sex Pistols, and the Boomtown Rats when given the opportunity to dj at our college radio station. Ultimately- pirated music has allowed me to go back and recover a lot of the older and out of print music that would need to be specially ordered otherwise. And a chance to enjoy todays crop of talented idie musicians without the cost of failed expirementation.
FWIW: I discovered Squirrel Nut Zippers while sampling some of their wares off of Napster years ago- I ended up purchasing nearly all their cd's as a result so Suck on That One RIAA!!!!
"You're listening to WMPG, 90.9: alternative music for alternative people coming at you in 50 power house pounding watts. We're coming up to local campus happenings at the top of the hour but first here's a cut from English Beat..."
Shut Up 'n' Play Yer Guitar - Reason Magazine
Interesting article full of links to shutdowns and changes of TOS from Grokster, Napster, YouTube....
OLD OLD OLD
well is this the data? The article is from 2003 when RIAA was heavy into their bag of tricks. Now they are choosing their battles less frequently and still coming up short.... and the free file DL sites are increasing everyday. google RIAA Hot 100 and pick any of todays hits and search the web for mp3's.
"In its current action, the RIAA, which is claiming damages of thousands of dollars per download, may have the law on its side, but that will matter little in the end. Indeed, it's far from clear whether the group's legal threats will even have any, let alone much, impact on unauthorized file sharing. A spokesman for BigChampagne, a research firm that tracks the use of the peer-to-peer networks that enable file sharing, told the BBC, "There's no mass exodus [from file-sharing services], that's safe to say. Ironically, usage this week and this month is up... The number of people using these file sharing services in the first 10 days of September is up more than 20 percent from the August average."
And yet, all the big file sharing sites are gone or have severely changed TOS. YouTube will now instantly take down anything that even vaguely might offend RIAA. Remember Napster? The FastTrack case? Grokster? KaZaa? Streamcast? Pirate Bay? So yes, it's effective, though ultimately fruitless. The image of the Hydra is often invoked.
The lawsuit strategy is just one more way an industry which is doomed is trying desperately to cling onto life as long as possible. Earlier victories are (from their POV) fine, but the legal pressure can never let up lest the fast poison of mainstream file sharing kill them quickly dead.
The lawsuit strategy is just one more way an industry which is doomed is trying desperately to cling onto life as long as possible. Earlier victories are (from their POV) fine, but the legal pressure can never let up lest the fast poison of mainstream file sharing kill them quickly dead.
whatever .... I despise mp3 and any lossy format
not from audiophool reasons , but as final confirmation of clueless and instant society approach to anything emotional and spiritual
not from audiophool reasons , but as final confirmation of clueless and instant society approach to anything emotional and spiritual
Im not sure music sales are up 2.1% over 2008. How can we be sure these stats are real? They want you think they are doing just fine, but I cant see how they can. Theres a generation of kids that know nothing else, if they got 30 dollars they are going to spend it on something else and download music for free. Kids dont even know its illegal to download. Theres continents of people that dont know anything but cd copies from markets. Warners Bros stock price has gone from 30 dollars in 2006 down to 4 dollars today, not a sign of a company on the up, EMI is bust, lets face it they are dinosaurs and belong buried deep in the ground, nothing but a long distant bad memory.
Im not sure music sales are up 2.1% over 2008. How can we be sure these stats are real? They want you think they are doing just fine, but I cant see how they can. Theres a generation of kids that know nothing else, if they got 30 dollars they are going to spend it on something else and download music for free. Kids dont even know its illegal to download. Theres continents of people that dont know anything but cd copies from markets. Warners Bros stock price has gone from 30 dollars in 2006 down to 4 dollars today, not a sign of a company on the up, EMI is bust, lets face it they are dinosaurs and belong buried deep in the ground, nothing but a long distant bad memory.
Couldn't agree more. When one resorts to pursuing litigation and lobbying instead of market strategies, it's a sign of senility and imminent death.
The RIAA members are no longer the gatekeepers and it's literally killing them.
I grew up in the 60's and 70's too and thought most of the music then was dreck. The current musical offerings seem as bad or worse, but that's just a matter of age and taste, I suppose.
These days I'm very happy to have the Internet as it gives me access to all sorts of music I would not have known about otherwise. There is plenty of good recorded music out there, old and new - and now it's easy to find. Hurray for the death of the old system! (tho it really did serve its purpose)
These days I'm very happy to have the Internet as it gives me access to all sorts of music I would not have known about otherwise. There is plenty of good recorded music out there, old and new - and now it's easy to find. Hurray for the death of the old system! (tho it really did serve its purpose)
I still love my records ( from days when record was what it realy is
) , but I also like when I can easy find lossless of some opera from 1950

dunno ;
have you a Nelson of your own ?

that means that my Papa is smarter than your Nelson Pass

have you a Nelson of your own ?

that means that my Papa is smarter than your Nelson Pass

RIAA paid its lawyers more than $16,000,000 in 2008 to recover only $391,000!!!
For a long time that opinion of mine, much more useful softwares we would get it from Microsoft if so much and well-paid one like that would employ a programmer, as many lawyers.
Maybe, that then already the machine translation programs useful would be.
We would understand each other possibly in this case.
This is not the interest of the all-time power.
I consider the music an important common language because of this.
For a long time that opinion of mine, much more useful softwares we would get it from Microsoft if so much and well-paid one like that would employ a programmer, as many lawyers.
Maybe, that then already the machine translation programs useful would be.
We would understand each other possibly in this case.
This is not the interest of the all-time power.
I consider the music an important common language because of this.
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I think it's funny that things are just getting "worse" for the RIAA. 10 years ago MP3 was the threat. Now you can get entire discographies in CD-quality lossless FLAC or APE by direct download.
Viewed demographically, it's just going to get worse. There must be a significant number of young people who've been downloading since they could click a mouse and have never bought a new CD.
In another 10 years, the big record companies will largely be irrelevant to new music. They'll continue to release new MOR stuff to sell in big box stores and market "captive" acts like manufactured boy bands or TV talent show winners. Mostly they'll just survive on the back catalogs. Although I expect even the dinosaur bands will be looking to get fairer shares of revenue. It bears repeating that Aerosmith made more money licensing a few songs to video games than they did off of decades of album sales. That's gonna get the attention of a lot of aging rockers and their lawyers and accountants.
Viewed demographically, it's just going to get worse. There must be a significant number of young people who've been downloading since they could click a mouse and have never bought a new CD.
In another 10 years, the big record companies will largely be irrelevant to new music. They'll continue to release new MOR stuff to sell in big box stores and market "captive" acts like manufactured boy bands or TV talent show winners. Mostly they'll just survive on the back catalogs. Although I expect even the dinosaur bands will be looking to get fairer shares of revenue. It bears repeating that Aerosmith made more money licensing a few songs to video games than they did off of decades of album sales. That's gonna get the attention of a lot of aging rockers and their lawyers and accountants.
just thought I'd point out that there are scores of "invite only" music torrent communities that operate sortof under the radar.
There aren't many bands I'm willing to pay money for. The ones I do buy are the ones I listen to a lot. most times I've downloaded the album already and know it's good, and buy the CD just as a way of saying "Thanks for not sucking, have a little money". Heck, I still have the wrapping on a fair number of them, since it's so easy to get FLAC rips.
There aren't many bands I'm willing to pay money for. The ones I do buy are the ones I listen to a lot. most times I've downloaded the album already and know it's good, and buy the CD just as a way of saying "Thanks for not sucking, have a little money". Heck, I still have the wrapping on a fair number of them, since it's so easy to get FLAC rips.
I was thinking about it many times already, what provides a value to the real arts. Well sure no, how much are paid for this how. I imagine the future when the artists receive state payment after it, how many people download their works from the internet, all this from the taxpayers' money. If you believe it, that's ********, I say it, all of my forints looked up more than his double increases the state cash's income at us, and i don't know, I get something for this.
Hmm... I would think almost every 'papa' is smarter than a piece of wire with some gain. 😉dunno ;
have you a Nelson of your own ?
that means that my Papa is smarter than your Nelson Pass
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edit: I wasn't sure whether you meant "than your Nelson" or "than you're Nelson". Lots of people don't know the difference!
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Downloads are still easily available, if not more so, via links to sites like Rapidshare from online blogs.
I think it's funny that things are just getting "worse" for the RIAA. 10 years ago MP3 was the threat. Now you can get entire discographies in CD-quality lossless FLAC or APE by direct download.
Ha ha you think thats funny, I remember when cassette recorders IE ( consumers copying THEIR recordings ) were being attacked by the RIAA. That's when they "lost it" in my book.
Well they started with engineers to create standards for vinyl recording mastering and playback technology. Gradually the accountants and lawyers took over the RIAA from there. Of course to those kinds of guys, the solution to any problem had only one answer. They sue and get their buddy's to change the rules in their favor. If they were smart they would of hired the original file sharing programmers to nip the early networks in the bud. Now they are shoring up little leaks in the massively flooding dikes.
the thing that amazes me about these guys is how undynamic they are in bussiness, they claim their royalty models dont suit a digital world bussiness model blah blah. Thats hogwash, they are not smart businees men and prefer to be bullies its as simple as that. In my mind the only way forward for these guys is to forget their ways and try going direct, all you can eat for 10 bucks a month, something like that. Its got to better than flogging that same old dead horse, sueing solo parents for 6.5 million dollars for downloading some mp3s, are these guys even human?
just thought I'd point out that there are scores of "invite only" music torrent communities that operate sortof under the radar.
Where I've been for the past several years 😉
Did the MP3 thing when I was in the dorms in college, but then discovered FLAC 😛
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