To me that's like describing the rubber compound used in the tires to someone who doesn't know where the ignition switch is yet.
Cheers.
Cheers.
You are at risk of being "out of control." 😀....If there is anything I have learned all these years,is that in audio I have and can accept no rules.🙂
Maybe but tires do make a demonstrable difference.To me that's like describing the rubber compound used in the tires to someone who doesn't know where the ignition switch is yet.Cheers.
A good reason besides democracy is this thread serves to inform those who are new to the joys of audio reproduction that there is a real controversy about the sound of cables.
When you are new to something you lack information, at least this thread serves to alert a newcomer that it is not a given that you need to use expensive cables or even worry about them unduly.
And you can even make your own!
Cheers.
Nicely said!
One of the sad aspects of subjective beliefs is that DIYers will become discouraged, believing they need expensive, "magic" components to achieve excellence.
Cheers
ZAP
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One of the sad aspects of psuedo-objective beliefs is that DIYers will become discouraged, believing nothing they do will ever better inexpensive components which already achieve measured excellence past any known scientific metric for audible perfection within their operating range. Why bother if the LM1875 as implemented in my TV can't be meaningfully bettered?
.....Still, I seem to hear differences, bit I don't necessarily prefer one over the other most of the time. It must be the low rez system I own....
Good post, I am in the same boat. But I don't buy the low resolution system thing, as when the audibility of cables first became public it was heard on what today might be considered low resolution systems. Unless of course there has been no real progress in the resolving ability of our equipment.
Maybe but tires do make a demonstrable difference.
Thank you, I think that further demonstrates my point how low on the totem pole speaker cables are.
Cal didn't specify the base. I think it's hex.
Wowsers! A ways to go then...
One of the sad aspects of psuedo-objective beliefs is that DIYers will become discouraged, believing nothing they do will ever better inexpensive components which already achieve measured excellence past any known scientific metric for audible perfection within their operating range. Why bother if the LM1875 as implemented in my TV can't be meaningfully bettered?
Cheer up there is always loudspeakers! 🙂
Sorry Panicos, now I understand what you meant by that.........Seems like we suffer from the same delusion. 🙂
Knowing is the first step. 😀
Nicely said! One of the sad aspects of subjective beliefs is that DIYers will become discouraged, believing they need expensive, "magic" components to achieve excellence. Cheers ZAP
Cheers. I know I have been "taken in" big time during the pre internet days by reading magazines and listening to salesmen.
Maybe I am a soft touch but the lack of neutral information probably had something to do with it.
What category do I fit into if I think I can hear a difference, but wish there was none?
Mine 🙂
You are at risk of being "out of control." 😀
In 1-2 cases I was.But I'm learning🙂
Knowing is the first step. 😀
Alternatively,if delusion really makes things sound "better",maybe it is better not to know ? 😀
Cheer up there is always loudspeakers! 🙂
You're one those 'glass half full' guys, aren't you? 😀 You're still stuck with the overall paradox, if CD > LM1875 > 'top notch speaker' doesn't convince on even simple material like solo speaking voice, the entire pursuit is arguably meaningless.
One of the sad aspects of psuedo-objective beliefs is that DIYers will become discouraged, believing nothing they do will ever better inexpensive components which already achieve measured excellence past any known scientific metric for audible perfection within their operating range. Why bother if the LM1875 as implemented in my TV can't be meaningfully bettered?
One of the sad aspects of pseudo-subjective beliefs is that DIYers will become discouraged, believing nothing they do will ever better expensive components which already achieve rave Stereophile reviews, past any known subjective metric for audible perfection within their operating range. Why bother if the CTC Blowtorch can't be meaningfully bettered?
High End Audio does not sound like life music to me no matter what it has cost. What are we talking about here! perfection ? give me a break ! There is so much more to do until HiFi is indistinguishable from life unamplified music that i am not discouraged yet.
High End Audio does not sound like life music to me no matter what it has cost. What are we talking about here! perfection ? give me a break ! There is so much more to do until HiFi is indistinguishable from life unamplified music that i am not discouraged yet.
But it does a good job in reproducing well,what we really buy,that is RECORDED music.
You are right and i enjoy my system a lot. If i compare it to ampified life music it usually sounds better. What i tried to say is that we have to look outside the box sometimes or we are trapped. What i miss is a repoduction system that is better physically then my Vinyl Stereo Setup, the best sound i got so far in my room. And i tried multicannel SACD. After some intesting experiences i got bored and took it off. To much strange, illogical information from the sourrouds and mostly only classical music availlable (i like classical but not ony). I am thinking about a multichannel Phantom Source System for example. I have a patent on a Phanto Source and the prototypes really shocked the people. I am talking about advances here and not optimising old systems.
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