Sorry you will never be able to educate me as you have nothing to offer other than a closed minded stance to what is possible. You are all words and no experience. I refuse to respond to close minded verbiage from someone that has all the answers of what makes the world go around. I have nothing to to prove to you or anyone else. I doubt that you would accept it, even if I could, as there would be some reason, just like the Amazing Randi and Fremer.
The dielectric is still the same. The carbon is responsible for the color!!!!!!!!!
That makes about as much sense as your understanding of audio equipment. You sure like to talk about something that you have so limited experience with. I mean maybe you could at least spend some time with things that you want to know and preach about, or is your stance that as long as I have read it, therefore it must be true, rule your thoughts?
No the measured distortion of the switch is greater than the cables. It will swamp out any signature you are looking for. Don't believe me, measure it yourself. I have.
I think you get a pencil? 🙂
Doomlord, John only tried to show that colouring a dielectric influence it's properties.
Yet more ducking and weaving.
Contempt for 'book learning' is a well-understood characteristic of the ignorant and fearful.
His theory may also describe what we are feeling when we look at a passing train. So?
jd
It was ***** switch then. By the way, any links to switch distortion measurements you can offer? I don't have the means to measure anything myself 🙁
On the contrary, you can take the test at your leisure and take as much time as you would normally do. The only difference is that you don't see which cable you are currently listening to. It may make you feel uneasy, 'cause now your ears are on their own ;-)
But pressure-packed? That's nonsense.
BTW Are you aware that most people perform their chores better when there is some pressure on them?
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If, from now on, I encounter posts pointing a finger towards a fellow member, said poster will find himself lurking from the SinBin or will even find himself banned.
Very last warning and don’t count on less than a week in the bin.
Talk about cables, not each other.
This is not to be discussed in public, my mailbox is open 24/7
/Hugo
Very last warning and don’t count on less than a week in the bin.
Talk about cables, not each other.
This is not to be discussed in public, my mailbox is open 24/7
/Hugo
Hmmm. Maybe it is good to remember that often books are based on more and more intens experiences and tests than most of us can master in a lifetime.
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I doubt that they are of a subjective nature though Jan. Using two different sides of their brains to do said tasks, as a rule.
Sorry pal, but all the diversionary tactics in the world amount to nothing. We're not impressed. The bottom line is - you can't answer the questions put to you. You can't show why a DBT is invalid, all you do is make excuses to avoid ever taking one and whine about pressure. You can't answer simple arguments based on scientific knowledge, instead you choose to deride scientific knowledge because it comes in books. You claim that your 'experience' in audio validates your beliefs, yet you have not addressed the basic fallacy in your thinking, that subjective experience trumps objective fact or that 'being in high-end audio for 20 years' means you don't have to listen to reason.
You complain about the invalidity of my arguments. If they're invalid, use your vaunted experience to prove it. Oh way, you can't. You're full of cr4p. Arguing from authority, even your own, is a fallacy, btw. Think about that.
Not directly knocking books as far as a reference, but experience is what reinenforces anything that may be learned through a book, is all that i am saying. Without experience, you are following blindly.
You guys are tempting me to close this thread long before we hit the 10K mark. As Hugo has said - cut it out. We have given you a lot of leeway and a place to vent a little steam but some of you are crossing the line.
About 10 years ago hi-fi magazine of which I was the editor bought wireworld's cable comparator. While I could easily hear differences between cables in sighted test, using the comparator I didn't hear any difference even when I was operating the comparator. I still don't have an explanation for that.
I think the question should be: can you identify two cables in blind test (it doesn't have to be DBT)?
I think the question should be: can you identify two cables in blind test (it doesn't have to be DBT)?
The explanation has been known for, ohh, a couple of decades, maybe more? Also buried in this thread at several places.
It should be DB to get accepted as fully controlled. Do you know, for example, that the results of placebo tests in medicine are influenced by whether the person giving the placebo knows or knows not that he is giving a placebo? So subtle is body language, and so good are we at picking it up. No, to be sure, as DB as possible. Just the sound!
jd
It was mentioned by someone in the past couple of days that a certain switching box (by design?) altered the character of both cables in a comparison.🙄
I assumed that this was to avoid the character/attributes of a cable which was well known to the listener being recognized.
To me this is a total nonsense as if the switching unit in any way masks or alters the cable's signature traits, then the test is null and void of value.
Your reaction is not surprising! There are of course many reasons for your experience.🙂
@doomlord_uk
I DID warn you!
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