I'm simply of the opinion that they look nice, feel nice, smell nice, and sound good to me. Don't really care much about any why's and wherefore's.
se
Taping the end of the cable to a foot long, very smooth and straight piece of 1.5mm steel wire, with the opposite end rounded and shoved into the cotton cable works like a charm. You do have to ruck the cotton tube up and then slide it along the length in steps, but it works.
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My braiding machine, ( hands )
Playing with some styles of connectors and material.!
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Some more work i just did for a customer.!
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The hot tip is they ain't cheap. 😀
A rebuilt unit will probably cost you around $5,000.
For rebuilt units, Composite & Wire Machinery are the folks you want to talk to. For new, check out Wardwell.
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Unshielded leads for line-level interconnects?
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I guess it's more important that they look pweddie.
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I guess it's more important that they look pweddie.
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thats what i do, except i coated the steel wire with clear coat so its smooth and doesn't leave any de-bre in the cotton.!
Oh no. Has anyone else taken a look at that site? Here is an excerpt from their sales pitch for a digital-application cable:
What horrible tripe. Impedance matching is a relative non-issue - power reflection due to mismatch would have to be horrendous before you would drop bits, in fact, with such a short run it is nearly impossible. The target device almost certainly has an extremely high impedance, that when compared to that of the conductor, there is no issue here at all.
And if by well-balanced and natural sounding, they mean doesn't drop bits then fair enough, however a coat-hanger bent into shape would do as good a job.
Digital can't sound mediocre - there is no room for snake-oil. Either you drop bits and it sounds like horribly distorted garbage, or it decodes perfectly. 1 or 0, that's it.
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yes i know, i just use the connectors because they are decent, I haven't found a place yet that sells decent ones that i would like to invest in, since i have invested in TONS of wire and products i will use them then continue my journey for other connectors.!
J.R. You haven't been hanging out in the digital forums enough! 😀
Not all digital receivers are created equal. Some have hard time with echo on the line, they really do. There are ways to fix this, of course, but they all too often are not used.
I even have a cheap optical cable I use as a demo of how bad it can sound.
But I don't think that silver will be any better than tin or aluminum, as long as the impedance is right for the SPDIF signal. (easier said than done).
Not all digital receivers are created equal. Some have hard time with echo on the line, they really do. There are ways to fix this, of course, but they all too often are not used.
I even have a cheap optical cable I use as a demo of how bad it can sound.
But I don't think that silver will be any better than tin or aluminum, as long as the impedance is right for the SPDIF signal. (easier said than done).
Hi jleaman,
They do look like nice connectors. Just so you know, I didn't mean that as a shot towards you, I only quoted your post for the link. I just fun it upsetting to see people giving up their money to what is very likely a deliberate deception. That site appears a little crooked.
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I know you mean that as a stab, 😀 It's a perfectly good example why i am making cables, because alot of it is hocus-pocus, mine are simple easy and nice ( i think ) nore do i charge 500$ for a set of patch/speaker cable's. Simple in simple out.
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Hmm, well you seem to have a lot of experience so that you see a possible truth here lends the subject some credibility in my eyes. But the products claims in this case, appear suspicious.
This optical cable you have, is it damaged in some way? Could it be possible not all of the information is making it through the cable correctly? Now a crack in an optical line - that is a good example of an impedance mismatch that could have serious consequences. The power reflections could be as bad as those familiar to us in other optical boundary situations - like looking up to the surface of the water from below in a swimming pool. The boundary acts as a mirror.
However in an electrical transmission line, a comparable impedance mismatch could really only be accomplished if the conductor was damaged severely, as I see it. When you say you've heard receivers having problems with certain cables, did you hear obvious errors (distortion) or did you find there was a subtle tonal difference or something along those lines?
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you can buy a cheap crappy optical cable, thats easy, the manufacture doesn't really clean the end properly or make it silk smooth so it appears clear not foggy on both ends, some don't even put the ends on the cable properly HELL monstercable has some that are REALLY REALLY bad for this, the ends just fall off, PFFT yeah the best cables out there my A$$!!
U can tell i hate monster cable's.! they are cheap crap there super coax cable is CRAP, as the pictures i posted before show and prove it.!
I found a 1$ cable from the dollar store to be better than some of those optical cables out there.!
U can tell i hate monster cable's.! they are cheap crap there super coax cable is CRAP, as the pictures i posted before show and prove it.!
I found a 1$ cable from the dollar store to be better than some of those optical cables out there.!
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