No medicine involved.I always try to be patient for a few days with just hot tea and fresh lemon juices.But speaking of potatos,yes that's how music sounded 🙂
We all know cables make a measurable difference. You only have to change the length by a foot.
The argument is about whether cables with effectively the same LCR, and enginered to meet the basic engineering requirements of the application, sound different.
The answer to the argument is NO.
But this contravenes sighted personal impressions, which the average person chooses not to distinguish from reality, and so they cannot 'let go' and accept that their sighted impressions are effectively delusions.
They then got on discussion boards and try to make everyone reinvent the wheel because they weren't personally there when the wheel was invented. This usually culminates in "please help me to set up blind listening tests that I can personally conduct at home and then I can tell you all the truth (which I secretly hope will endorse my sighted impressions)".
People who can accept that properly engineered and applied cables leave no audible trace don't get involved in all the above hanky panky and focus their time on genuinely audible factors like speakers, room and LP players.
I like the way you get more specific.
Is there any reason why you can't be more specific when talking about cable sound, ie name the cables or describe the dielectric etc?
cheers.
fredex,
Only because I have not been able to locate my notes and would not care to poke negative comments at specific brands, based upon an elderly memory that has certainly been overwritten a number of times with imagined results.
If I can unearth them I will provide my then fresh comments.
Bud
Only because I have not been able to locate my notes and would not care to poke negative comments at specific brands, based upon an elderly memory that has certainly been overwritten a number of times with imagined results.
If I can unearth them I will provide my then fresh comments.
Bud
Along with 1 inch long pieces of shrink tube (polyolefin, dielectric constant of 2.4) distributed down the lengths at 1/2 meter intervals and the polyester / nylon insulation on the individual strands of the 140 strands of #40 Litz composition.
Bud
Bud
Rather the same here, but I don't use heatshrink. Instead, I braid over the cotton covered litz with cotton.
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And I use a 46 gauge Type 2 litz. 165/46 for interconnect, and 660/46 for speaker cable.
se
I would only ask if the colored strands in the internal cotton are also cotton, or something with a more permanent color retention? If so, then you might try out the shrink tube just for grins. In my system it does control the amount of "dynamic color" retention, for lack of a better descriptive term. More or less the difference between a Brownian noise band and a circus band playing the same music.
Bud
Bud
Have a look at the old Yamamura cables (sold through ART, Italy and Yamamura Churchill) some years ago.....I still use these and, despite trying many others, cannot find anything to match them! They are similar construction but have additional dielectrics made from cotton impregnated with something similar to that black paper they used to use in computer shielding when God was a boy.
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it's what i use in my cables for customer's however i have to manually incert the silver wire into the cotton.!
I also use connectors from Homegrown Audio Co. | pure silver audio cables
J'
Ok fair enough. What I am after is comments from individuals on the sound of specific cables which should bring up comments from others.
If there is some agreement there might be something going on that measurements don't show. If the only agreement is "they do sound different", we are not really advancing at all because we don't know what the differences are.
cheers.
I am firmly of the opinion, and it is just an opinion, that exactly matched cables, matched in L,C & R, with identical dielectric material, will sound the same. I think there might be a slight difference between differing copper surface area, within that match, but that is an impedance function, not L,C & R. I do think that Identical L, C & R cables, with differing dielectric constants, but with enough of the lower constant material to match in C, will likely sound different, and enough to notice. I do think that extended surface area provides a clearer difference under these circumstances. Looking at only the cable, not the end bits or the electronic gear's potential instabilities.
I do think that the mismatch between copper and dielectric, with respect to the progress of an electrical field through both, with all of the attendant E Field moments in an audio signal is the prime cause for differences perceived in cables. And this only because we humans (poo flingers that we are) are extremely sensitive to these "timing" errors due to our threat assessment correlator using this information in constructing potential threat activities, before we actually get eaten.
In all I am of the opinion that all cables made with large copper surface area, no shielding and a low dielectric constant are superior in retention of low level, wide band coherence, in information. Beyond the above opinions, I am a blank slate.
Bud
I do think that the mismatch between copper and dielectric, with respect to the progress of an electrical field through both, with all of the attendant E Field moments in an audio signal is the prime cause for differences perceived in cables. And this only because we humans (poo flingers that we are) are extremely sensitive to these "timing" errors due to our threat assessment correlator using this information in constructing potential threat activities, before we actually get eaten.
In all I am of the opinion that all cables made with large copper surface area, no shielding and a low dielectric constant are superior in retention of low level, wide band coherence, in information. Beyond the above opinions, I am a blank slate.
Bud
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