cetec gauss

Hello, I just joined and would like some advice on my rather poor situation with my speakers.

So basically I have two cabinets with dual 10" cetec gauss 3161DSX drivers in them. These are about 30 years old I think, at least 20. The problem is that I got them from my school, and as such they are not pristine in condition. In fact they are far from it. The drivers are suppose to be 16 ohms each, they aren't anymore. In one cabinet one speaker is 13 ohms and the other is 11.8. In the other cabinet one speaker is 12.1 ohms and has a hole the size of a screw driver tip in it and the other is dead (I think the wiring broke internally).

My question is, should I have these repaired? Cetec gauss repairs are costly because no one makes parts anymore and I don't have money for it anyway. My other option would be to buy some drivers and build some small 3 way monitors for myself. I was thinking of some 8 inch daytons for woofers and some older but in great condition 4.5 inch aiwa full range speakers for the mids and for a tweeter I just don't quite know right now. I am going for an accurate sound reproduction for acoustic guitar and some other music like metallica.

Please any advice is helpfull. My limit in spending is 300$ for both speakers. Thanks

OPA627AP and multi-position switches

For sale:

NOS OPA627AP '97/'98 date codes Qty 3 for $55US

NOS Cutler-Hammer; 2-pole rotary switches; from 2 to 25 positions (with all stops removed (continuous rotation) - per pole; Make-Before-Break action; Really nice wipe. $20US EACH. Dimensione - Approx 1.5" on each side. 1/4" shaft diameter - 1" long. Switch mounts with two 6/32 screws thru front panel

Postage EXTRA

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ST-70: best “alternative” input/driver stage in 2022?

I’m planning my first PP build and the ST-70 topology is of interest.

It didn’t take me long to realize the main issue with this one is the scarce/expensive 7199 input/driver tube. Which some have swapped with things like 6GH8s and similar. I’ve seen some kits, articles, posts about using other tubes but can’t really figure out which one would be the best.

So as of right now in 2022, i’m wondering if there is a “generally accepted” alternative driver section for the ST-70 which uses separate triode and pentode tubes or just triodes?

HEATHKIT C-3 Capacitor Condenser Checker Resistor Bridge CAP Green Eye Tube -- NH USA

$90 shipped
$60 local pick up
Heathkit C-3 Capacitor Condenser Checker Resistor Bridge Green Eye Tube

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Small Syns

I posted a few plots of this speaker build on another thread of xrk971's, so thought I'd stop hijacking his thread (http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/285030-bookshelf-multi-way-point-source-horn-post4734171.html) and start a new one.

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Edit Dec 18, 2016:
Since this thread is long and meanders a bit (or a lot -- including extended debugging times), here are links to full plan sets, final crossover design, polar and distortion measurements:

When the weather lets me out to work with the saw again, I'll be building a shallow version of the Shelf Ported Small Syns. A 29" tall, 20" wide and only 9" deep box for mounting near the wall with minimal room intrusion.
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This one is about a project to use a SEOS15 in a partial Unity/Synergy arrangement, with a midrange driver bandpassed into it and woofers ported just outside and below the waveguide through a pair of slots. The idea is to extend the horizontal directivity a little lower with the array effect of the woofers, while keeping their output locations close enough to the center of the waveguide to keep vertical polar behavior (relatively) well behaved - an essentially point-source behaviour with directivity. I posted some plots of an earlier attempt of it using a small Celestion CD for the tweeter, but it had some distortion issues trying to go too low in frequency. So starting here will be the version using the new Peerless DFM-2535R00-08 driver (which, contrary to angst and gnashing of teeth comments within this thread, is NOT discontinued, and is in fact available from Parts Express at a very reasonable price!).

Here's some pics of the cabinets to show what it looks like.

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What I'm going for is:
  • smaller size than most Unity/Synergy variant speakers
  • better WAF (a non-flashy understated cabinet, works well in any room)
  • designed to work close to wall behind it
  • Easy to build without exotic tools (buzz saw and jigsaw, and drill mostly)
  • Good polar behavior, particularly in the horizontal
  • Good sensitivity >93dBSPL 2.83V/1m
  • Tolerable impedance (4 ohm nominal, try to stay above 3 ohms min) (ended up with a dip to about 2.9 ohms)
  • Relatively simple crossover (got less simple, but still not bad)
  • A sealed version (will need subs for any real bass) and a ported full-response version for full-range
I'm NOT going for linear phase for these designs, as I think it is much more practical to linearise phase after-the-fact with a FIR equalizer if that quality is judged to be important (I'm not entirely sold on it after some tests -- polar pattern, single point source, and response shape seem to be a lot more important, from what I've been able to hear in different speaker designs).

The trick to this design is to blend between the midrange and the woofer pair to get reasonably flat, but dropping in level, off-axis mid-high response. It's not very easy to get! I've been simming this in XSim using separate driver objects for each driver type at each angle, connecting the matching types to balance the off-axis response by trial and error.. It takes a fair amount of time to work into something reasonable, but build results do tend to match the simulations quite well.

Harmonic distortion in the tweeter range is pretty good now with the Peerless tweeter and a little more agressive crossover slope

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Another midrange could be added on the other side of the waveguide, but I think this is ok without it and minimizes diffraction within the waveguide for the tweeter.

When I get things more complete, I'll put up some build details, including how to modify the SEOS15 waveguide for synergy operation, in case anyone wants to duplicate the design or use it as a starting point for further developments. Please stay tuned!

edit Feb 22 2017:
Next (shelf ported) version --

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I hope to get started on this in a month or two
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IMG Stageline / Monacor STA-1508: trafo size for 2400VA ?

Dear all,

I'm interested how can such a PA-class 8x100W (RMS)@8R amplifier be specified to 2400VA power at the device's back panel at the AC inlet (this isn't the issue) when it's transformer is rather small. Compared to my own, several types of toroidal transformers, this transformer should not be rated for more than somewhere between 200-500VA or so .. ?
But if I look at the specs, something's wrong.

What do I miss here ?

Assumptions:
1. Is this amp about a "classic" - typical overrated kind of animal, where specs are nowhere near reality ? (But in the PA world I wouldn't expect that, there specs need to be delivered, period).

2. Or is it overloading the small toroidal transformer and at the same time let it run hot (because of active cooling) ? Even in such a case, 100˚C would already be too much for such and I still doubt this trafo is enough for feeding all these 8 channels with this size, keeping up with the specs.

3. Or is it a switching PSU which by design can be built for huge powers with relatively small transformers compared to linear PSU-s ? (But then, the current must be huge, running through the transformer).

So what's the big magic here ?
Specs here and 2 photos for understanding my question and worries.

The situation is: one such fully functional transformer is for sale in a DIY group, built out from such an amplifier (no typos) and we simply all wonder how the hell can a transformer of this size (estimated to 250-300VA) feed the device it was built in. The full specs are missing but anyway, this is it. It's either a big-current, enormously strong transformer in an unbelievably small size, or it's part of a switching PSU where they're inherently smaller than their same spec'd linear PSU brothers.

Dimensions: Diameter ⌀13cm, height 11cm, not a big one.
What might be the trick and last but not least, what might be the specs of this transformer ?
1 primary - 230V
2 secondaries - one (80V with center tap?) and one 22V.

Thank you & see attachments.

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Advice for screen stopper replacement

I had a spectacular failure of an EL34. It was absolutely incandescent orange and as bright as a Roman candle. I didn’t know whether to run toward the amp to switch the damn thing off or jump behind the sofa!

This is a PP, UL design. I found the screen grid stopper resistor was open and burnt. It looks like a KOA Speer SPR 3 watt 100R, one of those light green carbon film ones with the color band markings. In order to get the amp running again I pieced in a couple 47Rs I had on hand in series, again carbon film. That together with a fresh tube took care of the problem. I’m probably fortunate the output transformer was spared. I’m using some Winged Cs that test well and sound great yet are long in the tooth; I’d happily replace them if not for the current situation with tube supply.

So I’m thinking about the specification of those resistors. Is 3 watts really the correct value? Is carbon film the best choice from a fire safety standpoint? I’ll note that they performed well, failing open with just minimal signs of charing and the KOA Speer data sheet describes them as coated with a flame proof silicone coating. That not withstanding, would I be better served with a metal film or wire wound resistor? And perhaps a 2 watt resistor would have fused more quickly thus saving the output transformer some stress?

Any coaching on best practices here would be appreciated.

Why do Audioengine A5s sound unpleasant at loud volumes?

I have these old Audioengine A5 powered speakers, sitting about 3 meters away.

These use built-in TDA7294 amps with passive crossover onto 5" woofers + 1" dome tweeters, approx 8L boxes.

I don't have an SPL meter, but at moderate volumes, they basically sound fine, but when I increase the volume to "loud" (not insane loud, mind), they start to sound unpleasant - voices become very shouty is the best way I can put it, and treble becomes nails on chalkboard-like. One quickly wants to back off the volume at this point.

Technically, why is this?

breaking news: Spicemodel for reverb tanks!

Hi all

Since yesterday, a new milestone is set in the history of spice models.

I'm proud to introduce the world's first usable spice model for reverb tanks! 😀

After a bunch of impulse signal delay time measurements with a function generator and a scope on a sample of a TAD 8FB2 reverb tank, I was able to mimic the reverbs behaviour surprisingly well with spice's transmissionlines. The degree of reflection is managed by impedance steps from one transmissionline to the next or to a termination resistance.
Also the complexe impedance of the input and output coils is modeled, considering Rdc, inductance and parasitic capacitance.

After some experimental trials, I'm now able to push a 5s guitar track through my virtual reverb tank, and mix it with the original signal in half a minute of number crunching (with a Intel i7 2.9GHz CPU). Well, that's not super fast, but acceptable in my opinion.

However, if you are interested in the model or want to listen how the result sounds like, just visit my page:
http://adrianimmler.simplesite.com/448517750

Any feedback/proposal is welcome!

all the best, Adrian

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Pass X600, 600.5, 160 & 160.5

I'm very familiar with Threshold products (still have a FET 11g (German FET 10HL e series) and a Stasis 3 on Infinity's Kappa 9A's (Yes the LED's go all the way up when thundering along when my wife likes to dance to a beat, no kiddin'). In the past I've had a S/300 Series II, two S/500's, S1000 series II and SA1/'s optical bias.
The S/1000 was a bridged S/500 and the SA/1 a massive parallel S/500 throttled back to a railvoltage that allowed 160 Watts Class A at 8 Ohms.
The Pass X1000 is a bridged amp also like the X600 and X600.5 which are bridged X350/350.5s.
The XA160 is a single ended massive parallel X350 (probably the best sounding of the four?) and the X160.5 is a pushpull massive parallel X350.
Please correct me when my assumptions are wrong.

I've read a Stereophile review of the XA160 (1 nov 2003, https://www.stereophile.com/solidpoweramps/1103pass/index.html) and although very favorable soundwise the measurements weren't that great especially in the current department. If you have a hornloudspeaker there's no problem, but anything with a low efficiency combined with a tough load makes these amps unhappy I think. I have such a speaker an Infinity QLS.
In that case would a X600.5 my best choice and what is exactly the difference between the X600 I operate now and the X600.5?

Thanks

1st Order FaitalPro 3 way project - Speaker overlaping

Hi, I've been reading the forum, and recently made my first pair of single driver small tower based on Faital Pro 3FE200 which resulted quite good so now I bought another pair, also 8FE200 woofers and a pair of "American Vox" Tweeters rated at 95db. There are not many options in my country.
The design is a 40L vented Box with a look similar to JBL L100 or those old school speakers

Could you please tell me if this 1st order crossover is a good starting point. I like the simplicity of it and the reduced phase problems, but I have two concerns:
1)Will this be too bassy? I'm thinking of reducing the Mids low response by making a small mid's enclosure and also I'm considering there will be a baffle boost in the mid frecuencies. I wont mind a slighly V shaped sound with this project.

2) In the 2-3K region the 3 speakers will be contributing almost equally, is this a problem?

Some notes:
I could also low pass the Mid, to reduce the low mids, but first i'll try to reduce them acoustically with the enclosure.
Tweeter response is not the actual response, I found a similar driver and using that response, here it's inverted to work properly.
The mid range driver is the least sensitive one with 91db, vs 95db woofer and tweeter.

Thank you in advance! This is my first post, if there is any problem please let me know.
Regards
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A more convenient basic lm3886 pcb

In order not to pollute the earlier "open source" lm3886 thread, here's a thread for the successor board, trying to benefit of the lessons learned along the way.

The new PCB has been rethought to be easier to integrate, with a bit less wiring too (the intended use for this redesign is integration into an active speaker). Which means:

- Its size is 4.75cm*10cm. This allows it to fit on a common 50*50mm, 2mm thick aluminum corner (if needed, cut to 50*40). If one picks 25*30mm caps (which go up to 6800uF/50V at mouser), the total height can be: 2mm (bracket) + 5 mm (diode bridge) + 1.6mm (pcb) + 30mm (cap)= 38.6mm.
- The PS is fully onboard, including the diode bridge, meant to go under the pcb and be heatsinked by the aluminum bracket. Main caps are 25mm wide. If height isn't an issue, you can find up to 10.000uF/50V caps in that diameter.
- There is no DC protection onboard as it isn't really necessary in most cases but there's an header to power an external board if so desired (see the open source thread).
-Ground loops are managed through both the possibility to use a 10R resistor between signal and power ground and the possibility to use a CL60 NTC between the power ground and chassis ground.
- Power inputs/outputs can be screw terminals or spades (vertical or angled connectors).

Obviously, all "optional" components are onboard (this is a completely standard datasheet implementation) and attention has been paid to the advices received in the past (thanks again to Tomchr, Mark Whitney, DPH, Bozoc, among others).

Comments, suggestions for improvement ?

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vacuum tube prototyping methods

I am interested in what you would recommend for small experiments, prototyping of ideas, and maybe just some tools in learning the basics of amplification using vacuum tubes. I know people actually still use real wood boards as the bread board. The Global Specialties PB series of breadboards are rated at 36V/1.5A max , so I guess would be suitable for 24V ideas. I would really like to know your favorite method or any ideas as it applies to my intended use, stated above.
Thanks for any help!

Alan

Ace Tone Elite

I just bought this little 12 watt Ace Tone Elite. It needs a bit of work, so I thought I'd hop on here and see if I could get some questions answered.

First of all, the pictures are here and here.

- The first thing I need to do, of course, is replace the 2-prong cord with a 3-prong cord. So my question is, how do I safely get to the underside of the power board so that I can drain the filter cap? Or can I do it without getting underneath it? Should I just screw the ground from the 3-prong directly into the power board?

- I replaced the 12AX7 (far right) but I also need to replace the other two tubes as well (the one on the left is a 6GW8 [triode + pentode] and the middle one is a 6AV6 [duplex diode + triode]).

- I'm assuming I need to replace the filter cap (just based on apparent age). Do I? Do I need to replace any of the other caps?

The amp sounds pretty good, but the tremolo and reverb aren't currently working. I had hoped that they were running off of the 12AX7 and that replacing that would have fixed it, but that didn't work. I suppose the triodes on the other two tubes could be for the tremolo and reverb, but I would think if the triode in the 6GW8 was out, then the pentode would be dead too), so I'm guessing something else is to blame for the tremolo and reverb being out. If anyone has ideas on that, I'd be interested in hearing them.

Once I get the power board off I'll pull the other board and draw the schematic for it and I'll post it here, as I have been unable to find a schematic for the Elite and I'm dying to know how it's put together.

Finally, it has no standby switch. Should I add one?

Any other recommendations? So excited about my first tube amp and glad to have it be one with a little character.

BTW, at $90, how'd I do?

Buck converter - Which?

Hi,

I have a Meanwell LRS-200 48V power supply that I bought by mistake. I've no way to send it back for a refund or replace it with another.

Just don't want it to toss it in the bin, so I need to buy a buck converter to use it with a CLASS D amp I own, the WONDOW JAB5. This amp works with 24V-36V, so I need a good buck converter.

I've seen ton of them in Aliexpress, but IDK if they are reliable or not. So, my question is:
-. Would you recommend any seller in Aliexpress that provides a good buck converter?
-. If not in Aliexpress, maybe in another marketplace?
-. Any spec I should keep an eye on, for a good performance?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers.

Converting B&W 685 S2 to active - the crossover was pretty 'basic'!

I am in the process of a project creating a 4 channel chipamp with active crossover to drive my B&W 685s. So first step was to strip down the speaker and see what it is made of. The bass-mid driver seems reassuringly heavy. The tweeter has a sort of tube on the back - I don't know what that is all about but seems to be well-regarded. The existing crossover is surprising. One capacitor in series with the tweeter and one inductor in series with the bass-mid. Both high quality components so no arguments there, and I know there is a school of thought that says the simpler the better, but a first order filter on both drivers doesn't seems promising in terms of phase/coherence. So it will be interesting to hear what these being driving by a 4th order linkwitz-riley sound like (and if I can tell any difference!). Pictures of existing crossover and components just for fun. I am reusing the boards and replacincg the inductor with a short and the capacitor with back to back 2200muF electrolytics (as DC protection for the the tweeter).

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Bluave amp

I got this amp in for repair .

The owner stated that the amp makes the subwoofer flutter he said the amp doesn’t do it all the time more like 80% of the time is does this then the other 20% the amp works perfectly fine .

He said that there are 4 other amps in the system and they all work perfectly fine .

So I’m assuming this is not a broken rca ground inside the head unit .

Any ideas on what to check in this amp since everything I’ve checked so far appears normal

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Strange XO values Pre-made unit

I just bought a pre-made XO board and I can't work out what the values represent and why they were chosen.
I bought it for the cheap inductors, posted cost was less than half the cost of a new 6.8 cored coil
It's an old Jaycar CX-2630 and it is "Supposed" to be for 100Hz.
I've lost my text books temporarily and I need the formula for reactance.
The values are a 6.8mH coil and a 180uF cap to the woofer and the same value cap in series to the other speakers.
A stereo crossover but mounted on one board and similar to some I've found in old passive subs from RadioShack that used dual VC drivers

Also is there an easy or good way to cut one of these boards in half if I decide to use it as-is.
Appreciate any advice and help and thanx given in advance

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Understanding LM3886 replacements

Hello,
I’m new here and looking for help understanding the difference in Lm3886 chips as I cannot find a direct replacement for the one that let the smoke out on my studio subwoofer (the elusive Event 20/20 s250). There are 4x chips, one is burnt out. It reads PM96AT LM3886TF, photo attached. I can not find its exact replacement online. Any suggestions on a replacement? Several listing for the JM64RE LM3886TF, will it work the same? Any help is appreciated.

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Please help identify this amp

I just got a classy looking amp from a friend. It obviously has two blown transistors because the resistors next to them are all burnt out. Anyway, the label on the chassis reads

No. 18300
67095
MODEL DPA150-2

if anyone can identify this amp, please let me know. I would like to get the schematics for it so i can fix it. (It’s hard to read the numbers on the transistors...)

Fixing and troubleshooting this MOSFET amplifier

Hello friends, this is the story.

A good friend enjoyed this amplifier for about 10 years until one channel exploded. This also killed one of his favorite and expensive speakers. He asked me to take a look at it and try to fix it.

It has 2 identical small PCB's, one still works, the other can't be fixed because it caught fire. Literally. You may like to see the uploaded pictures.

I made some research and could disassembly the dead channel PCB, and could entirely personally redraw the PCB and have it manufactured. The entire schematic could be deduced from the bare PCB. All parts measured. I am also uploading the schematic. The LTSpice working simulation file is also provided. I could recognize this circuit as some Goldmund variant, probably model 330. I tried making some of these variants from information gathered from this same site and I could make them work almost with no problem. The circuits I used were simpler, with Semelabs BUZ900/905 MOSFETS, and a simpler driver stage.

You can clearly see the different color of the PCB soldering mask. Lighter green for the old original amplifier, and darker green for my new, copied PCB. I bought all the parts from Mouser except for the lateral MOSFET's that I replaced for Exicon parts, obtained from Profusion, GB.

The problem: being the new PCB's identical to the originals, and being the original working board fairly stable and well behaved, the new replacement boards (I made 2 of them) is making me nuts 😱. The working voltage is +/- 60V and when my variac reaches the point for +/- 40V, I get a strong 22 MHz sine oscillation at the speaker output (no load), input shorted.

All kind of solutions I tried with no reasonable results at all. The only difference are the output MOSFETS. EXC10N20 and ECX10P20 in place of the originals Hitachi famous 2SK1058 / 2SJ162.

Ferrite bead on the gate terminal of each MOSFET, larger stopper gate resistors, small Zobel network placed across drain to gate of each MOSFET, compensation capacitors at previous VAS stage, heat sink connected to ground, etcetera.

Some strange things I detected by testing the original working amplifier.
In some way I think I could understand the reason, later on.

The working amplifier does not show quiescent current of the output MOSFET's. The offset balance trimpot does not show any kind of output DC change at the output when adjusted. The attached schematic shows this trimpot as R3 and R4. The output DC voltage with input shorted is about 2 mV or less. When applying input signal to this working amp, it shows no visible distortion, and delivers full 55 Vp-p sine wave from 5 to 50 KHz flat.

BTW, very hot Q1 and Q5 ! ... being small signal transistors TO-92. I believe that this could be the reason for no quiescent current at the output devices. I tried to raise Iq a little for a short time by changing R7 value from 330 to 430 Ohms. This should increase quiescent current to 130 mA per output device, that MOSFET's usually like. It worked, but Q1 and Q5 suffered. I returned to the original 330 Ohms value. But this amplifier and his twin worked for 10 years almost all day long, with excellent sound quality.

In the other hand, I don't know what else to do with my copy version. The Exicon MOSFET'S were ordered as matched units, 18 of each type N and P.

The only thing that make the oscillation stop was to place 2 x 100pF C3 and C4 capacitors, which I think is a huge value. The oscillation stopped but the output devices quickly raised their temperature, I don't understand why ! I thought I had solved the problem. 😕

Also, I lowered the feedback resistor R22 to 3K75 half its original value. No changes.😡 returned to riginal 7K5 Ohms value.

Please, could somebody help me think what can be done to make this amp work ? I would thank this help very much.

Finally: today I ordered 20 units 2SK1058/2SJ162 from Pacific Semiconductor in Canada, to avoid any fakes from other source. I have not too much hope because these are not matched units and these are too few pieces to get at least 2 matched pairs...

Thank you in advance !

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Using a CT dual rail PSU as a single output

Using the anotated schematic I attach. I have this PSU with bridge B3 populated. If I feed AC into AC1' and AC2, no CT connected, and take a single rail positive supply out using v+ as pos and V- as zero.....is this acceptable? Have tried it on the bench and it 'works' but I'm not certain it is the done thing. To my mind the caps aren't doing anything as they have no reference.
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New member here. First post... where to start with 2-way bookshelf speakers...?

Hi all,

I'm new about the place and I'm really looking for a bit of guidance.

I'm a woodworker with experience making small boxes so I think I can do a reasonable job of a pair of speakers. I'm interested in experimenting with MDF and laminating, though I'm far more familiar with solid timber. I suspect my final design will be a combination of the two, possibly with some heavy plywood bracing. I've seen some fantastic projects by a lot of DIYers and I'd like to build a pair of powered (Lepai LP40PA amplifier) bookshelf speakers for my sister who's had a difficult year.

A couple of projects have piqued my interest, notably the Parts Express C-Sharp and another pair of slightly bigger, front-ported speakers I've seen someone build on YouTube. I'm not interested in purchasing the full C-Sharp kit and would much prefer to build the enclosures off a plan, rather than from pre-cut parts. I have access to an excellent professional workshop.

I have a couple of caveats. First, I'd prefer a slotted front port and I'd like something in the 150mm/6" driver range (but no bigger) and I'd rather not go below 125mm/5". I have thought about full range drivers but it seems to me the best results with those are in transmission line enclosures. While I have little doubt I could build them, they are much more complicated and not really practical for a bookshelf speaker.

So it's down to a two way set up. The C-Sharp speakers use DSA135-8 and ND25FW-4 drivers. I also looked at the RS150P-8 and DC28FS-4 drivers in the alternative design as they seem to be a step up in quality for very little extra.

The trouble is that I have no real idea of how to build a crossover, assuming I build the second one. I can solder well enough for this. I would have thought that someone would have designed a crossover for what appears to be a common combination so I thought I'd ask around here.

If designing and building my own crossover gets too complicated, I'll probably just go for the C-Sharps but I'm trying to figure out something that I will find challenging and enjoyable to build.

My sister is not an audiophile but there's nothing wrong with her hearing and she can differentiate between very average (think: plastic boom box) and reasonably good. I'm set on the amp, though I'm sure others would use something more advanced.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

JD

X -mass head phones?

Got some very old audio Technica cans and crappy Radio Shack crap. Thought about Jubilee not sure of brand but seems good for the price. Not sure if "critical listening phones" are right for me. Looked at AGS or something like that at a good price and old school. One is semi open air and kind of like that idea better than totally closed. Audio Technica or Sony are on my short list. Might even get dedicated low power high quality amp to get the most out of them. The A T are shorting out and refuse to subject my brain to the radio shack. Suggestions? On a right budget.

Tape Head ID

Greetings.

Apologies if this is obvious, but I have tried to find information on these tape heads and fell fully short. I have a bunch of these and have access to many more. I'm assuming they're Chinese.
I'm assuming they're for auto reverse playback because all heads have similar resistance value and occupy separate tracks.

I bought them to play with tape echo effects with a half-mind to use all four tracks.

Any information on these, however basic would be appreciated as this is new stuff to me.

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what’s a acoustics low pass filter?

is it each fold in a transmissionline as you would (could) stack (2 if entering from the closed end) ,

or 3, if entering at the (~0.349 for the 3 x 1/4 notch/cancel) ? and have the driver (direct radiator) in the same exact spot (if concentric) as the vent.



also??


do you get ‘gain’ from the superposition of freqs that didn’t quite ‘make it past’the 180 degree deliberate turn? because they are similar in ‘sine wave size/shape’ so they promote output of similar input outgoing ‘size/shape’?


ignoring all of the super details and losses etc.??

(hope i worded this correctly?)

Allison One or Two Speaker Crossover upgrade - ideas wanted

Problem
The frequency response of my system isn't flat. I want to fix it.

Plan
I want to add a notch filter to my tweeter and convert the 1st order crossover to a 2nd order. Then lower the crossover point of my mid woofer. This should allow me to crossover the mid and tweeter in the 2-3k range rather than 4k.

I'm aware that I'll need to measure the speaker myself to fine-tune crossover but I want to make sure I'm on the right track before I proceed.

Questions
1. Is it okay to remove the zobal network and replace it with an l-pad? I can use between a 7.5 to 10 ohm resistor in parallel with the mids.
2. The 0.55mH inductors and 10uF caps form a 2nd order crossover at 2.15kHz? And I can lower the capacitors to raise the crossover frequency?
3. I can raise or lower the padding resistors to adjust the mid and tweeter level if necessary?
4. Are non inductive resistors necessary? I'm sure they're necessary in radio frequencies but I'm not sure they're necessary in audio crossovers. Does anyone know the inductance of Vishay RS resistors?

Old crossover
https://elektrotanya.com/allison-acoustics_one-and-two_schematic_before_6-80.pdf/download.html

New crossover


Additional info


Speaker frequency response and impedance measurement
https://www.gammaelectronics.xyz/audio_04-1976_allison.html

Allison tweeter measurement
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/tweeters-in-allison-loudspeakers.294463/#post-4835097

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Paper and epoxy "silkscreen"

I just want to share my small invention. As an experiment I made a "paper and epoxy" board markings. Yes, it's just a paper covered (and infused) with epoxy resin. The surface is not very uniform so curing under pressure would be helpful. The uncured resin partially dissolves the laser printer toner which led to a slightly fuzzy image.

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Distance between drivers...am I missing something?

I've always understood that having the tweet and mid as close as possible is the proper way to do things for all the various reasons you all know.

However, there are regularly speakers being designed and sold with considerable distances between the high and mid/midbass driver. Why is this done? Is it just for looks? Are the designers doing a tradeoff for some particular attribute?

Which ribbon tweater for Magnat Monitor Supreme 802?

Hello,

I am struggling with the audio quality of my home cinema for a while now, and I thought about changing the tweater of my towers.

I'd like to try ribbons, are there any suggestions for good ribbon tweaters (not too expensive)?
Since I need 11 of them I am looking in a price range about 90€ maximum, cheaper would be better.
I am going to try just two in the front towers for the beginning, measuring, building a new crossover and see how that goes.

I found loads from Dayton Audio, but is this maufacturer any good?
Some of them are super cheap I can't quite imagine those to be better than the original dome tweaters.


Greetings from austria,

Plempel

RMI 360 keyboard amp,,,

A Buddy gave me this non working amp to salvage the reverb tank from for another amp... In searching for a schem, I found that it was the go to for some famous keyboard plyers from the 70s,,, Steve Winwood,, Jon Lord and others,,,
So I thought I'd try to restore it, before stripping it for parts... I noticed a burned film capacitor,, trim pot and disc cap on the power amp board, and can't read the numbers...
I searched for a schem, but the only one I saw is unreadable,,, Anyone have a schem for this guy?

Thanks in advance...

Available software for GedLee Distortion (Gm) Measurement

I’m looking for available software that allows for measurement of Gm (GedLee distortion). I see that Virtins offers it in their full version.

https://www.virtins.com/multi-instrument.shtml

Also, according to Gedde’s paper (ref 5890), mention that frequency dependant Gm’s must be left for future work. Are there any software packages that allow for frequency dependent measurement of Gm?
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Tube amp noob. Need advise on how to troubleshoot.

So I bought a used Bugera 6262 (non-infinium). This is my first tube amp, and I don't know what I'm doing. It came with the original tubes, which must be pretty old by now. I'm running it on the 8-ohm setting into an 8-ohm 2x12 cabinet. The first couple of hours playing yesterday were great. Today nobody was home, so I put an MXR 6 band eq in the effects loop and cranked it up loud to dial in a tone. After about 5 minutes, 2 of the four power tubes were glowing bright orange and purple (the 2 furthest from the power cable, in case that matters). The other two were glowing, just not nearly as much, and only an orange color. After I noticed it, seconds later, I saw some sparking in the 2 bright glowing tubes and heard some noises, and the sound cut out. I immediately put it on standby, and after a few more seconds, the fuse blew, and the blue power light turned off. I think the two bright glowing tubes blew, and that caused the fuse to blow. I plan to order a new tube set, both power and preamp, and some fuses). I also ordered a bias probe, so I'll be able to set it properly. So my questions are; does this sound normal when tubes go bad, or does this seem like some other issue? As I said, this is my first experience with a tube amp. If this sounds normal and the tubes were just old and bad, are there any tube brands to stay away from? I was planning on ordering JJ 6L6s and JJ preamp tubes. Thanks for any advise or input!

How much would YOU pay for Klippel service?

So after the initial results of my prototype on Erin's Klippel, I was pretty excited to bring something pretty damn good to the DIY community. Unfortunately, Erin will be stepping back from testing for an indefinite amount of time. I'm having a tough time finding a Klippel owner that would work with me for a hobbyist price. So me and another member @tktran303 are both trying to figure out what to do. He floated the crazy idea of "let's buy one". So my question is, how much REAL interest is there in this community to measure your speakers for a nominal fee? Or do special tests there is interest in?
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Recommendation for 2.5way SB Acoustics

Hi guys!

A friend of mine has two beautiful cabinets, pretty much the same size as the sb acoustics Arya kit.
SB Acoustics :: Arya Kit

As we both are completely noobs with crossover design, we decided that the best we could do is to buy the kit without the cabinets, since the cabinets are identical (almost same baffle size, almost same liters) and we like the sound of the sb acoustics.
The bad thing is that the frequency response at the arya kit is very lame (see the attached picture)


I know that the cabinet, the position of the drivers and other stuff play important role, but my friend is not a perfectionist so, we are just looking for a better crossover design than the sb acoustics kit.
The drivers that we intent to use are sb acoustics sb29rdc and sb17nrx or Sb17mfc

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This Hybrid PSU Pls Teach Me

Hi All,
Came across this psu & would appreciate your kind tutorial & explanation

1. Transformer is a Lundahl with HV 350 Ac output, not sure if it is 350-0-350v. If I use other tranformer with 350-0-350 do I leave the CT unconnected or ?
2. Does this hybrid rectifier circuit behaves like an SS diode bridge where voltage multiplication is higher as compared to tube rectification ?
3. What is the advantage of using such a circuit ?

Many
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thanks

B&K Reference 4420 Problem

Figured I would post here as a last ditch effort to attempt saving this amplifier I have. I purchased this amp used on eBay from a reputable dealer about 3 years ago. Unfortunately for me, all I did when I got the amp was hook it up for a minute to make sure it worked, but I didn't spend much time with it for about the next year or 2 because we were in the process of moving. About a year ago I finally got around to hooking it up, and realized at higher output it does this. As you're watching the video, you can see the woofers "flutter", and hear the song cut very briefly.

B&K Reference 4420 Issue

I sent this amplifier to a local repair guy, he said he couldn't make the amp do what I was describing, which made me wonder if I was going insane. I got the amp back from him and it does exactly the same thing. So I reached out to the best amp guy I personally know... in Portland, OR, and shipped the amp to him. He called me and said the same thing, he couldn't get the amp to react the way it was in my video, and he couldn't at all find anything using a "dummy load". Together, we finally figured out that the amp only rears it's ugly head when it has a real, 4 ohm load, the speakers need to be 4 ohm nominal to make the woofers do this, 8 ohm won't make them do this (and by "real" I mean it has to actually be a speaker connected to the amp).

The guy in Portland was fairly honest, he said he wasn't sure what was making this amp do this, so he was going to replace parts that were potentially problematic, hoping it would fix it. Long story short, he replaced a bunch of parts in the amp- fairly sure the only things that weren't replaced were the main power supply caps, and the mosfets, and replacing those parts didn't help anything at all. He believes this amp has bad mosfets, he thinks this is most likely what is causing this issue, but the mosfets for this amp are NLA. So gobs of money in shipping wasted, plus I paid him for some of his work, though he did give me quite a break because he felt bad he wasn't able to figure it out.

I'm curious if anyone here has any inclination as to what could be causing this issue? FWIW, the amplifier biases just fine, and sounds magical at lower volume. Once the speakers output reaches about 83 to 84 decibels, the amp starts doing what it's doing in that video I posted. And in case you can't hear it in the video, bass is what makes the amp do this, and usually that lower, more reverberant bass. There is no "smoking gun" anywhere, nothing in the amp looks burned and according to both repair techs, it tests fine on a scope. But the 2nd guy was the only one that could make the amp respond the way it was in my video. I really don't want to give up on this amp, it sounds magical up to the point that it has this issue.

DIY turntable build

I’m looking for second hand parts as to what makes and models
Bearing as to which bearing or what’s available out there
something a bit better than run of the mill
A stand alone motor and pulley
A platter to be run on the outside

I hope to make my own
Motor housing again I’m new to this but switch gear or transformer required
Bearing housing
Arm later on once the turntable is made
Arm housing

Any help or shove in the right direction would be appreciated


Cheers Jim

Techron 7560 / Crown M600

Having just retired I now have time to follow my past interests in the design and repair of audio equipment. Recently I have been asked to look at two Techron 7560 power amplifiers (sometimes referred to as power supply amplifiers), these are I understand equivalent to Crown M600 units. Their specifications are impressive, even by today’s standards. I have completed a couple of minor repairs and I have performed some basic tests to prove the frequency response, noise, output power and distortion (towards to onset of clipping I managed to get 1,500W into 4 Ohms (1kHz) at c.0.1% THD).

These units are switchable for a.c. / d.c. input coupling and are probably well suited for sub-woofer applications. However, they are large (6U), heavy 41.7Kg (92Lbs) and have two permanently on cooling fans. The owner wants to sell them and has asked, given their specifications, if they are something of interest to the audio community. I would therefore appreciate any views from the DIY Audio community as to whether these units are of any interest to community members. If so, and if my understanding of this forum works, I will arrange for the two items to be posted under the Market Place / Members Market area of the forum. This is my first post under the forum and apologies if I have misunderstood anything.

Your feedback would be welcome.

Jon

GFA 565, no Bias at all. (Used Hoppe's Brain board)

Hello,
I have installed the completely stuffed board from Hoppe's Brain into one of three GFA-565 that I am working on. It has no bias at all, it has sound and no offset. Noticed that R-502 runs pretty hot with 15volts AC drop across it (no DC, which I think is weird since there is a diode in series with the resistor/transformer ). Can someone explain how the bias delay circuit works and what the voltages should be? I was thinking of swapping one of the other soft start boards to see if it changes the condition. The manual just barey mentions the soft start board.


Just noticed that the circuit around R-502 is floating in respect to ground, so the dc thing makes sense.

Arcam Delta Black Box1 mods

Hi,

Picked up an Arcam Black Box 1.Has anyone modded it?

Inside:-

Twin transformer power supply design
Voltage regulator for each main chip
Back end of a CD player (SAA7220P/A, TDA1541a, custom 'black chip' IC programmed for Arcam)
Class A LF411 dc servo output stage
Tantalum capacitors
IEC mains inlet
Phase switch
Phase-locked loop master oscillator

Sound:- nice sound but treble gritty 🙁


Ash.

motor unit noise

Hey fellow DIYers!

I'm having an issue with the motor unit I'm building for my all-DIY-turntable.
Currently I use a mason DCX 22 motor in an external motor unit built of alloy. The motor itself runs w/o vibrations - but it is quite noisy. I can still hear it from about 2m of distance.

So my question is: What measures can I take to reduce the noise of the motor in the motor unit? Do you know of any materials that I could use to reduce the noise?

Ideas would be gladly appreciated
Stephan

Takman Rex vs Rey

I'm finishing a 6SN7, line-level preamp. I used Takman REY, metal film resistors in the signal path. A friend listened and suggested that using Takman REX carbon film might enhance the sound: make it less clinical, more tubey.

I respect his ear but, who knows? (Sure: the Shadow knows.)

Any thoughts or experiences worth sharing?

Need advice on outputs on a Sound Valves VTA70i

Hello All and thanks for the add.
I recently received 2 of these amps and I have re-capped both and set them up as mono-blocks per their instructions.
They sound pretty dang good to my ears.
My question; can I or should I change the EL34 tubes (I learned them as tubes, long time ago!) for KT66?
I have heard all kinds of stories, and viewpoints and I am just wondering it they would 'help' in any way?
The KT66s would be the Gold Lion which has some good review.
I would appreciate any info - just getting back into audio......

DIY MID HIGH Peter Morris

SOLD!!

A pair of Peter Morris DIY Mid High tops in 90deg version is up for sale.

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See the NEW DIY Mid High thread for further details or call me or PM me.

2 x 12 RCF MB12N351 in a folded horn and 1.4 BMS 4594 HE Coax.

This is a 3 way/2 way active top that sounds fantastic and goes very loud.
They are less than 35kg.
Pole mount.
Recessed handles.
Black Tuffcab Pro.
NL4 Speakon
106 db/2.83v
LowMid: 1300 AES /2600 Peak.
MidHigh: 150 AES/1500 Peak
High: 80 AES/320 Peak

I have made DSP settings both IIR and FIR(no phase correction) for Powersoft K series. The amps can be bought with the speakers.

I have used them with 2 Xoc1 TH-18 tapped horns per side. The subs are also for sale.

PM me for measurements and more pictures.

The speakers are located in Denmark, but shipping is ok, if arranged by the buyer.

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Cheers. Andy

A few mods to my LP12

Hi all. I have been planning a few diy upgrades for my Sondek for a while so I thought I should share the plans and see what you all thought. I'm still in the design phase so there is plenty of opportunity to refine it. The updates will be done in a month or two. I have a few parts to make first and also waiting for delivery of a motor from Maxon.

The turntable is presently a fairly basic spec unit. I fitted a new AC motor and made an Armageddon clone drive for it earlier in the year. Also made a prototype aluminium sub chassis and re-wired the arm, which is a REGA RB202. Sound quality is ok but it clearly has a long way to go. There is some vibration from the motor so must be affecting the performance a lot.


The next round of upgrades have been in design for around 6-months. I stripped and measured the turntable an re-created it in CAD (Creo). I have used this to design new parts and assess them using Creo Simulate FEA. When I looked at the standard LP12 design I was surprised how basic it is and there are several poor features and a lack of stiffness in the structure and sub-chassis. Upgrades from Linn are so very expensive and just fix their own crap design features! My plan has been to match or improve some of those upgrades for a fraction of the cost.


I will put a few more posts on to show details. There are 4 main upgrades; new tonearm, subchassis, fix top plate resonance, and add a decent DC motor with closed loop voltage control. I'm hoping these will give good performance and get me rocking with the old vinyl collection. 🙂


Picture below shows one of the problem areas that I have been looking at and assessing loads of design options - subchassis. The standard pressed steel subchassis looks poor and the analysis confirms this. It weighs around 1.1kgs and there is a further 3.7kgs of weight on it from the platter and tonearm. This weight makes is resonate at a low frequency. There is a first order resonance of just 52Hz. This cant be very good for bass performance!

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XO upgrade?

In 1998 I built a 2-way speaker from a kit I bought. The tweeter is a ScanSpeak D2905/970000,and the midwoofer is an AudioTecnology 5H 52 17 06 SD. Back then it was something of the top and it is still very nice drivers.

The XO was designed by someone who knowing what he was doing, I believe, and it generally has good components in it. The coils are the flat CFC air coils, and the 2 capacitors direcktly in the tweeter line are Mundorf Supreme. The capacitor in parallel with the bass is however, only a M-cap also from Mundorf. The resistors are a bit of a mystery. These are 3 very different resistor types. There is a 47 ohm which bypasses the large coil for the bass so it sits in a direct line. It's a metal one with a heatsink 25W. It is unfortunately gorn off the one XO so it has been replaced by an M-Resist from Mundorf 20W. Then there is a 2.2 ohm which bypass a capacitor to the tweeter and it is a very strange resistance. It's such a small plastic RCH resistor. Finally, it is an old-fashioned sandcast resistor parallel to the bass.

What I intend to upgrade the XO a bit is to replace the last 2 resistors with M-Resist. Sandcast is in any case a somewhat inferior resistance than M-resist the price is in any case below 10%. But that RCH resistance is in Denmark quite expensive, but it is a good resistance. I think there must be a reason why the designer chose it. In addition, I will
Bypass the 2 supreme capacitors that are in direct line with the tweeter, with a 0.01 µF silver-gold-oil from Mundorf. The reason for that it is Mundorf I mention, is that they are the ones I have good access to. I'm just trying to see if I can figure out how to put one image of the XO.

TUNG-SOL KT120 and KT150 valves

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Apart from a fairly marginal difference in terms of Cathode Filament Current and a Plate Dissipation of about ten Watts in favour of the KT150, from an electrical point of view (Anode Voltage, Impedance, Transconductance etc.), the TUNG-SOL KT120 Power Pentodes and the more recent TUNG-SOL KT150 are practically the same.
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But since I'm very keen to experiment with the newer sisters on my Single-Ended amplifier currently equipped with KT120s, I wanted to ask those who have already experimented with them about any contraindications of use, but above all about their differences in terms of general musicality.
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I thank in advance all those who would like to share and contribute their experience.

Test stand for loudspeaker measuring

I ran into the problem of my usual tripod beeing to weak for a new speaker I was building.
So I first thought about building a new one by my self. Anyway, this would have been a week long project for it self, getting the materials, designing it retracable for storage etc.
At a local discounter I ran into a stand for bike repairs. To cut a long story short, for the 50$ it's regular price was, I would not even been able to buy the steel tubing used. It even was at close out sale for 20$...
Fixing a platform for the speaker from some spare wood was done in a few minutes and I was ready to measure. I do measure speakers in the open if weather permits, so such a solid piece of equipment is great for the garden. The model I picture here is identical to mine and really heavy steel at ca. 15lbs/ 7.5kg. Secure speaker position can be as high as 5 feet/ 1.6 meter, which makes for a microfone position at 1.8-2 meter.

A bonus: If you do not measure speaker, it is a great help for bike repairs, adjusting gear change mechanism and converting bikes to E-bikes.

A professional loudspeaker stand is another option, but the ones with a wind up mechanism, which I would prefer, are much more expensive.

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Should I get one 18" or two 12" for my 3-Way?

Hi there,

Let's start from these assumptions:
  • F3 is tuned at ~24hz for both.
  • Xmax within range.
  • Fully active 3 way, no passive crossover.
  • The 18" has +3db compared to the two 12" below 28hz, so it get's lower... but again, DSP here.
  • box size doesn't matter.
  • they will cut at 260hz.

pros/cons?
Anyone experienced both?
Modern speakers have multiple woofers, I get that, commercial thing, the general public likes them more for the look and space vs the fridge sized speaker... but would they sound "better" with a bigger woofer?

Acoustic modification of concert venue

Working on a 5,000 set concert venue beside the casino at Niagara Falls. The concert hall was completed a few years ago but never opened because it failed the acoustics test (too much echo) and we're changing the angle of the panels at the back of the theater. He's some photos of the work.
The panels are made of 6 pound fiberglass. Resin is poured on in patches so that we can screw on the clips that will suspend the panels. They are being changed from being flat against the wall to angled towards the stage. 3 layers of 3" mineral wool insulation is stuffed behind the panels. This was done on all 4 floors.
Behind the stage 2 layers of 3" mineral wool were placed on the wall behind the performers and large walls of insulation are going to be built on the catwalk above the stage.
Holes were cut into the ceiling to let the sound escape into. The angled panels hide the holes.
I've also included a couple of pictures of the finished product.

Real itchy work, it was a lot more fun building the actual venue! Cold as hell but at least I wasn't covered insulation fibers all the time!!

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Musical Instrument Waveform Generator with Amplitude Correction

Seems all the waveform generators available, whether PC based or stand alone, do not permit automatic amplitude correction. Here's the issue: using an electric guitar, my low E produces an output of about 250mV immediately after the pick strike, while the note on the 22nd fret of the high E string chimes in at 100mV.

Is there a way to sweep through all the guitar frequencies, or any musical instrument, while simultaneously correcting the amplitude? I know it's possible to build one, I just want to purchase something. Battery powered preferred.

It may not make a difference in most situations, but if one were to build a speaker cabinet and test it, would not a constant amplitude possibly yield erroneous results? For instance, say a 2kHz signal at an amplitude that will never be achieved in a real world scenario, causes a resonant frequency to oscillate the cabinet, or otherwise ruin the natural speaker response.

Distance from speaker to listener / frequency response

Hi

Wondering if there is any science to what I am hearing here. When I have a 2 way speaker, lets called it a nearfield or bookshelf. At around 3.5 feet everything sounds great, there is a certain continuity between 2-5k that is seamless and present. When I back up to about 4.5-6 feet some of this clarity goes away, a lot of it actually.

This is happening to me in different well treated rooms, different monitors, at different orientations of drivers/cabinets.

Beyond phase alignment and bad reflections from the room, is there anything that would change frequency response with distance?

Is there a different approach for a speaker that will be listened to at a distance of 6-8 feet than one that might be listened at 3-4 feet?

I am a little confused, tempted to take them outside to see if its all just room reflections becoming more prominent and the perception of less upper mids and if I am crazy.

Dan

Amp per voice coil?

Good day everyone - hope you’re all doing well!


Buchardt Audio came out with a Signature Edition of their A500, with a custom Purifi woofer for the front driver (has 2 voice coils) with 2 separate amps powering the same woofer

I’m curious what the benefit of that would be?
Guessing it’s to do with one of their custom voicings - in cardioid mode, they likely lose some output, so the extra voice coil+amp would be used to compensate for that loss?
(Being that the rear driver would be used for cancellation to create the cardioid pattern?)


Regardless - I’m just curious if there’s other benefits to that approach (dual voice coils+dual amps feeding the same driver) beyond an increase in output?



Thank you all in advance!
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