Motivated by yesterday's posts, I started work on Aleph X monoblocks. Most of the parts comes from my A75 which was taken apart fot that purpose.😉
It looks like it's going to be one of a few not commercial Alephs with TO-3 output devices. Since A75 used 12N channel mosfets per channel and I'm using 16 I had to use extras from my stash. Just out of curiosity, I checked the price and it appears that I paid $2.36 for one IRF230 in 1994. How much are they today?😉
The caps on board are 1,500u Panasonic HFQ. I checked the values and after 8 years of usage they are still OK. There will be more caps outside the board and resistor or thermistor between. Total capacitance per channel 128,000uF.
The power would be around 100W, PS +/- 20V DC, I'm using 4 banks of 4 devices per channel. I am not quite sure about the source resistors value, but I would like to use the same I used in A75 which is 0.56 ohm. Anybody please correct me if I'm wrong. The current would be around 6A for both sides.
The heat sinks are the same as A75.
Please note attention to details,😉 I'm not using screws to conduct the current, but rather Kimber wire soldered to mosfets cases.
It looks like it's going to be one of a few not commercial Alephs with TO-3 output devices. Since A75 used 12N channel mosfets per channel and I'm using 16 I had to use extras from my stash. Just out of curiosity, I checked the price and it appears that I paid $2.36 for one IRF230 in 1994. How much are they today?😉
The caps on board are 1,500u Panasonic HFQ. I checked the values and after 8 years of usage they are still OK. There will be more caps outside the board and resistor or thermistor between. Total capacitance per channel 128,000uF.
The power would be around 100W, PS +/- 20V DC, I'm using 4 banks of 4 devices per channel. I am not quite sure about the source resistors value, but I would like to use the same I used in A75 which is 0.56 ohm. Anybody please correct me if I'm wrong. The current would be around 6A for both sides.
The heat sinks are the same as A75.
Please note attention to details,😉 I'm not using screws to conduct the current, but rather Kimber wire soldered to mosfets cases.
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Looks nice Peter ..: O ) did you get them relays yet im wondering what were going to do for a trade..
Can't wait to hear it.
Me too.😉
A few more quotes. I paid $18.74 for one IRFP9240 in 1994 and $7.8 for IRFP048. They like 3 times less today.😉
This is how the board looks from the other side. Had to resolder almost half of it (half the electrolytics had to change polarity). I liked to make the traces for output stage this way. I was drawing the spaces with a marker on mylar and it was it, no fancy software, no gerber files.😉 Picked that method from Yamaha, all their boards were design that way (minimum etching, maximum conductivity).
Me too.😉
A few more quotes. I paid $18.74 for one IRFP9240 in 1994 and $7.8 for IRFP048. They like 3 times less today.😉
This is how the board looks from the other side. Had to resolder almost half of it (half the electrolytics had to change polarity). I liked to make the traces for output stage this way. I was drawing the spaces with a marker on mylar and it was it, no fancy software, no gerber files.😉 Picked that method from Yamaha, all their boards were design that way (minimum etching, maximum conductivity).
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How did you manage to solder to the T03 cases?. I've noticed before that that is almost impossible
Good luck with the project!!
Adrian
Good luck with the project!!
Adrian
To solder to3 case, you have to "scratch" the surface where you want to solder the wire, and ou have to have a good soldering iron - because you have to heat up the case. Thats why a lot of ppl cant solder to to3, their soldering iron cools down, because it doesnt have good temperature distribution and not enough watts..
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I have a question too, why do you use plastic isolation for transistors? Doesnt the normal one have better heat conductance?
I have a question too, why do you use plastic isolation for transistors? Doesnt the normal one have better heat conductance?
I hate using grease (especially when your amp has 48 output devices), and these ones were nice alternative to mica. They worked fine in A75 for last 8 years, so I didn't see a reason not to use them again.😉
Thermal impedance 1.13°C-in2/W (@50 psi)
Original sil-pad material
Excellent mechanical and physical characteristics
Flame retardant
Sil-Pad 400 is a composite of silicone rubber and fiberglass. It is flame retardant and is specially formulated for use as a thermally conductive insulator. Primary use is to electrically isolate power sources from heat sinks.
Sil-Pad 400 has excellent mechanical and physical characteristics. Surfaces are pliable and allow complete surface contact with excellent heat dissipation. Sil-Pad 400 actually improves its thermal resistance with age. The reinforcing fiberglass gives excellent cut-through resistance and Sil-Pad 400 is non-toxic and resists damage from cleaning agents.
Thermal impedance 1.13°C-in2/W (@50 psi)
Original sil-pad material
Excellent mechanical and physical characteristics
Flame retardant
Sil-Pad 400 is a composite of silicone rubber and fiberglass. It is flame retardant and is specially formulated for use as a thermally conductive insulator. Primary use is to electrically isolate power sources from heat sinks.
Sil-Pad 400 has excellent mechanical and physical characteristics. Surfaces are pliable and allow complete surface contact with excellent heat dissipation. Sil-Pad 400 actually improves its thermal resistance with age. The reinforcing fiberglass gives excellent cut-through resistance and Sil-Pad 400 is non-toxic and resists damage from cleaning agents.
Why is the normal isolation bad, does it act like a dielectric and makes capacitance between ground and transistor? Im asking this because I dont know what to use for my aleph..
Grease is a mess
"Normal" isolation requires grease.
Grease is a mess, that's my simpel reason for using silicone rubber.
\Jens
"Normal" isolation requires grease.
Grease is a mess, that's my simpel reason for using silicone rubber.
\Jens
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so here is a question for youpeter i see that yuo use plitron and victoria magnetics toroidals witch do you prefur and where is victoria magnetics arnt they in the states.. isnt it expencive to order them .. myplitron one that ihave is verry impressive nicly wound and nice layout.
J'
J'
Victoria Magnetics was a trade deal and I didn't have a chance to use it yet. However, a friend of mine who builds Aleph5 got so dissapointed with lead time at Plitron for standard transformer, that he decided to order from VM.
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yeah i wated 3 weeks for mine but right now latlye i have been asking anthony to look around and he is doing awsome job of it too.. surplus stuff.. i do like plitron though.. there nice designs..
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Just finished my discreet bridges. I'm using 2 bridges per channel, so 16 x 30ETH06 IRF diodes. I also did snubbers (however didn't have space for resistors so caps alone will have to do). The angle is both the mount as well as a heatsink. Clever layout reduced the number of connections and allowed compact size.
I only hope they are worth all the trouble comparing to regular bridges I was using untill now.😉
I only hope they are worth all the trouble comparing to regular bridges I was using untill now.😉
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