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Old 29th December 2014, 05:28 PM   #1
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I don't know what you guys are doing for music servers but this product caught my eye;

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fiveninjas/slice-a-media-player-and-more?ref=nav_search


I'm tempted to get a diskless one, add a SSD and install something like Volumio or Rune; that would give me a reasonable player for my USB headphone amp and a networked UPnP music server to stream music files to the miero-equipped Beaglebone Black that is upstream of my Acko SO3 isolator/reclocker and Buffalo DAC. In theory, as it is based on the RPi architecture it should be possible to replace the pre-installed software with solutions such as Volumio, but I'm gonna ask some questions about it. In music server mode the clock compromises of the RPi won't be a factor.

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Old 29th December 2014, 10:09 PM   #2
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Great stuff, Ray!

Thanks for sharing. I will order one to play with.

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Old 13th January 2015, 02:56 AM   #3
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Guys, I am a bit new to streaming of audio over network.
Thought an NAS is all that is required?
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Old 13th January 2015, 05:43 AM   #4
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Well a complete network-based audio system consists of
- music server
- NAS (or some other form of data storage, even local)
- client (AKA controller)
- renderer

These different components can be individual hardware devices, or the functions bundled, or even all functions running on a single computer.

In a typical SqueezeBox setup the server application might be running on a NAS device, streaming audio to a separate renderer. The client controller application might be running on a (separate) tablet computer, or the renderer and controller might be running on a single device - as with SqueezeBox hardware products (eg. SqueezeBox Touch).

A typical Music Player Daemon setup is different - the server application and renderer might be running on the same hardware device, accessing music files across a network (not "streaming") from a separate NAS.

Which leads me to the point that IMO, the correct generic term for such systems is "network-based audio system" not "streaming audio system" since the streaming technical model is really the most common implementation of a broader concept.
It's a bit like The Netherlands being referred to as Holland.
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Old 13th January 2015, 07:31 AM   #5
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Guys, I am a bit new to streaming of audio over network.
Thought an NAS is all that is required?
What linuxfan says!

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Old 13th January 2015, 01:03 PM   #6
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for starters easiest way of network streaming is NAS (i.e. Synology) -> controller (apple/android device) -> USB DAC... Synology has it's own music server (audio station) and interface called DS audio which can be installed on your apple/android device, connect USB cable between NAS and DAC, install DS audio on your device, play music stored on NAS...
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Old 13th January 2015, 01:57 PM   #7
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from Synology

https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowl.../tutorials/499

I believe this says streaming from NAS to a DLNA/UPnP-compliant device such as the EDEL is possible.

As I am also new at this please correct me if I am wrong

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Old 13th January 2015, 02:03 PM   #8
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not only, Synology NAS has direct USB audio out same as PC so you can directly attach any USB audio device such as USB speakers, USB sound card or USB DAC...

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Enable high quality output for USB speakers: With this option, you can enjoy better audio quality if your music files and the sound card of the DAC (Digital-to-analog converter) connected to your DiskStation support 24-bit audio output when USB speakers are plugged in to your DiskStation.
tested with USB DAC...
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Old 13th January 2015, 10:07 PM   #9
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Well a complete network-based audio system consists of
- music server
- NAS (or some other form of data storage, even local)
- client (AKA controller)
- renderer

These different components can be individual hardware devices, or the functions bundled, or even all functions running on a single computer.

In a typical SqueezeBox setup the server application might be running on a NAS device, streaming audio to a separate renderer. The client controller application might be running on a (separate) tablet computer, or the renderer and controller might be running on a single device - as with SqueezeBox hardware products (eg. SqueezeBox Touch).

A typical Music Player Daemon setup is different - the server application and renderer might be running on the same hardware device, accessing music files across a network (not "streaming") from a separate NAS.

Which leads me to the point that IMO, the correct generic term for such systems is "network-based audio system" not "streaming audio system" since the streaming technical model is really the most common implementation of a broader concept.
It's a bit like The Netherlands being referred to as Holland.
Thanks Linuxfan, great information!
But I would like to take baby steps first. Excuse my ignorance as I am trying the get my head around concepts clearly:

My current test bench has a Foobar media player on PC driving a USB DAC directly. Music libraries etc all taken care by Foobar

Music is served up from local HD. So now if I were to use a remote NAS instead and map the drive to the PC then the process is still transparent. NAS acting more like a fileserver only and nothing else. Simple and straightforward.

So how does this setup fit into the scheme of things that you have presented?
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Old 13th January 2015, 11:40 PM   #10
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OK, so you are moving from a one-box solution to a two-box solution. Your PC is now acting as:
- music server (foobar)
- client (foobar)
- renderer (foobar, in combination with USB DAC)

The core device in your music playback system is your personal computer. I prefer not to do this, partly because my computer is in a different area of the house from my designated music listening area. But my computer is still used to acquire and manage my music collection, which is stored locally on the computer, and duplicated to a NAS.

In the future you might consider splitting out the client function to a tablet computer. I really like this idea, because it frees me to control music playback while I am walking around in the kitchen. I'm freed from having to control music playback from the same physical location where the music player device is located. I'm only 2 or 3 metres away, but it's a significant distance.

If you get to that point yourself, and want to stick with foobar, I'm told there's a good foobar client called "foo_upnp"
foobar2000: Components Repository - UPnP/DLNA Renderer, Server, Control Point
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