legacy Car Audio Amplifiers

[Matttcattt]

How close are the power outputs on Legacy amps to the ratings? Im mainly interested in the Red Series.

 

[Matttcattt]

No comments? Not even to say I am stupid to doubt the manufacturer's measurements?

 

[minitruck_freq]

they arent even close. dont waste your money.

 

[Matttcattt]

they arent even close. dont waste your money.

Can you sugges a company that produces a 2kW+ amp that will really output these levels? Yes, the PA drivers I am going to use are rated at 1kw RMS so I dont need to worry about frying them.

 

[minitruck_freq]

what is your budget? are the subs single or dual voice coil? what ohm voice coils?

 

[Matttcattt]

what is your budget? are the subs single or dual voice coil? what ohm voice coils?

Looking at Fantom Force, a website my friend pointed me to, the amps with this sort of rating are in the $130-$200 range.

I’m looking at amplifiers and subs so that I can work out a sensible budget. The subs are £200 each so I'm looking at ~£800 total, so hopefully I can get some amps under £200 (currently ~$350) each.

The subs are single voice coil, stated as 5.5R.
The Subs

 

[Matttcattt]

How do Power Acoustik amplifiers compare to the Legacy ones?

 

[maylar]

You can't get 1000 watts for $100.

Legacy, Pyle, Pyramid, Power Acoustik, Volfenhag (sp) etc that sell new-in-the-box amps for $100 on eBay are all pieces of crap. They only make 1/4 or less of the power that they claim. I've seen "1000 watt" amplifiers with 15 amp fuses. Figure it out.

Try JBL, Soundstream, and Clarion. All have high power Class D amps at reasonable prices that'll make advertised power, sound good, and last more than a month.

They don't cost $100 tho.

 

[Matttcattt]

You can't get 1000 watts for $100.

Legacy, Pyle, Pyramid, Power Acoustik, Volfenhag (sp) etc that sell new-in-the-box amps for $100 on eBay are all pieces of crap. They only make 1/4 or less of the power that they claim. I've seen "1000 watt" amplifiers with 15 amp fuses. Figure it out.

Try JBL, Soundstream, and Clarion. All have high power Class D amps at reasonable prices that'll make advertised power, sound good, and last more than a month.

They don't cost $100 tho.

I realise that a 1000W amp will need a ~100A fuse if it is 85% effecient and is run from 12v.

I will look at JBL, Soundstream and Clarion as you suggested.

I realise this. I just dont know what price range I am looking at. Hopefully the JBL, Soundstream and Clarion websites will help.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[Matttcattt]

Well, the JBL GTO1201.1 is $500 which is ~£280 (probably under £350 with postage) which is acceptable. 787W into 4 ohms sounds good too.

I'll have a more detailed look later. Thanks again.

 

[maylar]

Check the online dealers. JBL 1200.1 can usually be had for $260 USD.

 

[Matttcattt]

Check the online dealers. JBL 1200.1 can usually be had for $260 USD.

Thanks, as I said, ill have a more detailed look at a later date. I dont have the money at the moment and this question (or string of questions as it has turned out) was purly for research.

Thanks again for you advice.

 

[Matttcattt]

Is anyone else going to share their knowledge or opinion(s) on the subject?

 

[Matttcattt]

Do JBL amps really output what they are rated to, or do people just assume they do as they are priced so much higher than other makes?

 

[zx3chris]

the best cheapest bang for the buck is the jbl 1200.1. I own one and it was bench tested @ 1300w RMS @12v (and its only rated for 1200rms @12), so they are very good amps. like said before, power acoustik, pyle, volfenhang, legacy are all crap and underrated like crazy -- dont even waste your cash. ive also never heard of the subs you are looking at -- i wouldnt buy them just bc they are huge and massive, do u have reviews of them?

-chris

 

[djQUAN]

power acoustik, pyle, volfenhang, legacy are all crap and underrated like crazy -- dont even waste your cash.

in my case, I don't like how their products look like.

 

[Matttcattt]

the best cheapest bang for the buck is the jbl 1200.1. I own one and it was bench tested @ 1300w RMS @12v (and its only rated for 1200rms @12), so they are very good amps. like said before, power acoustik, pyle, volfenhang, legacy are all crap and underrated like crazy -- dont even waste your cash. ive also never heard of the subs you are looking at -- i wouldnt buy them just bc they are huge and massive, do u have reviews of them?

-chris

Thanks for the second opinion.

I was helped to design a horn with them. 40-300Hz @ 130dB+ with 1000W RMS.

 

[zx3chris]

its impossible to make a bass horn in a car -- regardless, getting 130db @ 40hz is easy now -- even with a small <1.0 cubic feet and 1 10" subwoofer.. You need decent equipment. Look at adire audio's brahma, or a JL audio w7, or Resonant engineering XXX. BTW, my car is setup for SQ and i am mid 130db's with 2 jl10w0's

-chris

 

[djQUAN]

proper design of enclosures could make a good sub sound like crap on the other hand......

I have a pair of very crappy 10's I got for US$13.3 adn installed them in a slot loaded box, powered with a good amp and puts out almost 130db in car. not to mention the good low freq extension.

 

[Matttcattt]

its impossible to make a bass horn in a car -- regardless, getting 130db @ 40hz is easy now -- even with a small <1.0 cubic feet and 1 10" subwoofer.. You need decent equipment. Look at adire audio's brahma, or a JL audio w7, or Resonant engineering XXX. BTW, my car is setup for SQ and i am mid 130db's with 2 jl10w0's

-chris

"SQ"?

proper design of enclosures could make a good sub sound like crap on the other hand......

I have a pair of very crappy 10's I got for US$13.3 adn installed them in a slot loaded box, powered with a good amp and puts out almost 130db in car. not to mention the good low freq extension.

Could you give deatails of your setups?