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Old 25th April 2012, 02:34 PM   #1911
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Then otherwise a 100VA R-core and a 100VA toroid should be pretty indistinguishable in terms of sound? That's my impression.
Subjectively to my ears the result is calmer and softer with R-Core. Don't know if it is the discrete bobbins, the shield, or the lower capacitance for line noise coupling from primary to secondary.
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Old 25th April 2012, 02:38 PM   #1912
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If the second follows from the first, then surely there must be some audible benefit?
20dB (1/100th part) is a mighty big reduction in mains harmonics.
MC phono is a special needy case and there it is a must if in same box. Line or power level can be made quiet enough with no positioning and wiring mistakes when using EI or toroid. Still you may remember Roender recommending R-Core for close proximity boxing up with his folded cascode amp. I think you got one of those?
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Old 25th April 2012, 02:40 PM   #1913
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But that is not addressing the claim
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Good for minimal magnetic field
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Old 25th April 2012, 02:43 PM   #1914
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What claim?
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Old 25th April 2012, 02:49 PM   #1915
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just found some nice description of the R-Core design and traits here by just googling:
Products - Custom Magnetics, Inc.
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Old 25th April 2012, 02:50 PM   #1916
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That claim in post1904 and followed up by
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20dB lower harmonic noise when exchanging a toroid with an R-Core
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Old 25th April 2012, 02:53 PM   #1917
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I don't think its a claim to say I found the R-Core emitting lower field than usual transformers, its designed for that.
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Old 25th April 2012, 02:57 PM   #1918
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You are supporting the claim by re-expressing it.
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Have you previously posted elsewhere your experimental method and/or details?
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Old 25th April 2012, 02:58 PM   #1919
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My B1 is inaudibly quiet with a standard toroidal transformer.

With a Salas Shunt Reg, that gets rid of almost all residual noise.

Is it realy necessary to go the added expense for inaudible gain.
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You are supporting the claim by re-expressing it.
Have you previously posted elsewhere your experimental method and/or details?
As I told you no, I haven't saved and posted before and after FFTs but I think that I had mentioned enough times in the phono thread that I use R-Core in solo MC boxes after I had found toroid unusable for hum and buzz unless separately boxed. I have no reason to pay bank transfer and shipping for R-Core from France if a locally made and instantly available toroid could cut it.
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