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Vacuum Tube SPICE Models

OOPs - here's the attachments for my last post (asking about SGEL data sheets)
 

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goldenbeer (others?)

I haven't been successful in finding data sheets from Shuguang except for the attached (which I found through an Ebay add). Can you point me (us) to any other's?

Analog Metric sells Shuguang tubes and has a PDF on its download page containing datasheets for a number of their tubes. Here is a link to the download page (go to the very bottom for the Shuguang datasheet document):

Analog Metric - DIY Audio Kit Developer

and here is a direct link to the Shuguang tube datasheet PDF:

http://analogmetric.com/download/Shuguang Beijing Vacuum Tube Datasheet Analog Metric Limited.pdf

I hope this helps.
 
Chinese Tubes

Ray,

Wow, thanks a lot! It looks like that might be a good place to order stuff too. Do you have any experience doing so - import fees and shipping costs? Do you know how they “match” tubes in sets?

My guess is that Carvin used those EL34As in my son’s guitar amplifier. Except for the “PM EL34/6CA7” inked and "46 mA 11/51" ratings paper tag markings, they look identical to the attached photo.
 

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Wow, thanks a lot! It looks like that might be a good place to order stuff too. Do you have any experience doing so - import fees and shipping costs? Do you know how they “match” tubes in sets?

I've never ordered anything from them myself so I can't offer any advice there. One thing I have noticed is that they sell a lot of clones of other designs. While this might be benign for products that were discontinued years ago, there are a few that are in direct competition with current production products (an example is the Transcendent Sound "Grounded Grid" preamplifier). So each of us has to let our conscience guide us when deciding whether to buy those particular products. Of course, this doesn't apply to parts; just kits.
 
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QQ03/12 Tetrode SPICE Model

Try this one, should be close enough...

Code:
*
* Generic pentode model: QQ03_12_AN
* Copyright 2003--2008 by Ayumi Nakabayashi, All rights reserved.
* Version 3.10, Generated on Sat Mar 07 19:15:37 2015
*                  Plate
*                  | Screen Grid
*                  | |  Control Grid
*                  | |  |  Cathode
*                  | |  |  |
.SUBCKT QQ03_12_AN A G2 G1 K
BGG   GG   0 V=V(G1,K)+1
BM1   M1   0 V=(0.10806033*(URAMP(V(G2,K))+1e-10))**-1.4768137
BM2   M2   0 V=(0.50389449*(URAMP(V(GG)+URAMP(V(G2,K))/4.5910051)))**2.9768137
BP    P    0 V=0.0012268646*(URAMP(V(GG)+URAMP(V(G2,K))/9.1110445))**1.5
BIK   IK   0 V=U(V(GG))*V(P)+(1-U(V(GG)))*0.0011989613*V(M1)*V(M2)
BIG   IG   0 V=0.0006134323*URAMP(V(G1,K))**1.5*(URAMP(V(G1,K))/(URAMP(V(A,K))+URAMP(V(G1,K)))*1.2+0.4)
BIK2  IK2  0 V=V(IK,IG)*(1-0.4*(EXP(-URAMP(V(A,K))/URAMP(V(G2,K))*15)-EXP(-15)))
BIG2T IG2T 0 V=V(IK2)*(0.87112107*(1-URAMP(V(A,K))/(URAMP(V(A,K))+10))**1.5+0.12887893)
BIK3  IK3  0 V=V(IK2)*(URAMP(V(A,K))+22300)/(URAMP(V(G2,K))+22300)
BIK4  IK4  0 V=V(IK3)-URAMP(V(IK3)-(0.00082086248*(URAMP(V(A,K))+URAMP(URAMP(V(G2,K))-URAMP(V(A,K))))**1.5))
BIP   IP   0 V=URAMP(V(IK4,IG2T)-URAMP(V(IK4,IG2T)-(0.00082086248*URAMP(V(A,K))**1.5)))
BIAK  A    K I=V(IP)+1e-10*V(A,K)
BIG2  G2   K I=URAMP(V(IK4,IP))
BIGK  G1   K I=V(IG)
* CAPS
CGA   G1  A  0.1p
CGK   G1  K  3.7p
C12   G1  G2 2.5p
CAK   A   K  2.6p
.ENDS
 
Try this one, should be close enough...

Code:
*
* Generic pentode model: QQ03_12_AN
* Copyright 2003--2008 by Ayumi Nakabayashi, All rights reserved.
* Version 3.10, Generated on Sat Mar 07 19:15:37 2015
*                  Plate
*                  | Screen Grid
*                  | |  Control Grid
*                  | |  |  Cathode
*                  | |  |  |
.SUBCKT QQ03_12_AN A G2 G1 K
BGG   GG   0 V=V(G1,K)+1
BM1   M1   0 V=(0.10806033*(URAMP(V(G2,K))+1e-10))**-1.4768137
BM2   M2   0 V=(0.50389449*(URAMP(V(GG)+URAMP(V(G2,K))/4.5910051)))**2.9768137
BP    P    0 V=0.0012268646*(URAMP(V(GG)+URAMP(V(G2,K))/9.1110445))**1.5
BIK   IK   0 V=U(V(GG))*V(P)+(1-U(V(GG)))*0.0011989613*V(M1)*V(M2)
BIG   IG   0 V=0.0006134323*URAMP(V(G1,K))**1.5*(URAMP(V(G1,K))/(URAMP(V(A,K))+URAMP(V(G1,K)))*1.2+0.4)
BIK2  IK2  0 V=V(IK,IG)*(1-0.4*(EXP(-URAMP(V(A,K))/URAMP(V(G2,K))*15)-EXP(-15)))
BIG2T IG2T 0 V=V(IK2)*(0.87112107*(1-URAMP(V(A,K))/(URAMP(V(A,K))+10))**1.5+0.12887893)
BIK3  IK3  0 V=V(IK2)*(URAMP(V(A,K))+22300)/(URAMP(V(G2,K))+22300)
BIK4  IK4  0 V=V(IK3)-URAMP(V(IK3)-(0.00082086248*(URAMP(V(A,K))+URAMP(URAMP(V(G2,K))-URAMP(V(A,K))))**1.5))
BIP   IP   0 V=URAMP(V(IK4,IG2T)-URAMP(V(IK4,IG2T)-(0.00082086248*URAMP(V(A,K))**1.5)))
BIAK  A    K I=V(IP)+1e-10*V(A,K)
BIG2  G2   K I=URAMP(V(IK4,IP))
BIGK  G1   K I=V(IG)
* CAPS
CGA   G1  A  0.1p
CGK   G1  K  3.7p
C12   G1  G2 2.5p
CAK   A   K  2.6p
.ENDS

Thanks a lot.

Danilo
 
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Jaz,
I have triode characteristics with halves in parallel, but the visibility is really very bad, sorry. If can help ...
Thanks, I built the model with a similar parallelled triode curves and simply divided the current by 2 to arrive at the value of a single triode. Like all models, it probably still requires some adjustments to make it work properly in a circuit.