We are talking about a digital cable, transmitting digital signals, if they transmit the digital information then they work, if they don't then you will no, there will be NO subtle changes to the sound there will be drop outs and glitches.
How to measure digital signal transmission is well know, as is measuring any noise you get from the PC. Without measurements you have no idea of what is happening so cannot engineer a solution to any problems you may have or perceive.
If the problem is noise you will only know by measurement, otherwise it is just speculation.
If it is a problem with the digital signal transmission (you will know) you don't bet subtle changes, you get clicks and drop-outs...
Your ears are of no real use in deciphering whether a digital interface is working correctly (though in the case of noise they may give some indication) but without some sort of measurement you do not know what is going on and thus cannot fix it...
You are in need of doing a blind-test on the cables to realize that they do sound the same. Because they do.
NO they do not.
And digital photos from an SLR end up being different depending on which cable was used when transferring the images from the camera to the computer?
NO they do not
Then please explain the mechanism by which they are sounding different, they are passing digital data, to sound different they must change the data in such a way that they do not cause glitches or drop-outs, therefore this is an important discovery as previously only DSP circuitry or similar could achieve this.
Yes. So?
You didn't answer my question. Let me rephrase:
So are you saying that the pictures of a Digital Camera will appear to be different when transferred to the computer depending on the cable, because the digital information is carried out by an analog waveform?
Keep in mind that the typical ABX blind test is incapable of proving that DUTs sound the same, it is only capable of proving they sound different.
dave
I wouldn't use ABX.
For example, you could do a test as follows:
Test 1:
Switch between two cables.
Test 2:
Switch between two cables.
These tests should be done a number of times.
When the results are collected, information will be presented revealing which of the two tests didn't change the cable (it was just unplugged and plugged back in). Of course, between each round, the selection of which test is fake is randomized.
After that, it's just a matter of doing statistical analysis of the (random) answers.
For example, you could do a test as follows:
Test 1:
Switch between two cables.
Test 2:
Switch between two cables.
These tests should be done a number of times.
When the results are collected, information will be presented revealing which of the two tests didn't change the cable (it was just unplugged and plugged back in). Of course, between each round, the selection of which test is fake is randomized.
After that, it's just a matter of doing statistical analysis of the (random) answers.
Just ask a friend of yours to switch the cables for you and take the blind test yourself. You will know whether you can notice the difference or it is just a subjective perception.
Why would you give up?
First you make a statement without elaborating.
Then I give a counter-example, and instead of responding you say that digital is actually analog.
Then I give a clarified counter-example, and you won't respond to that either?
And when it comes to hearing things that do not exist - we all do.
The McGurk effect - YouTube
Look at this guy repeatedly until you're sure what he says.
Then close your eyes.
Then look at the guy again.
When looking, you hear what your brain wants to hear, regardless of what you want to hear.
Yawn, no its digital signal transmission, don't kid yerself, this is such a boring reply. Its DIGITAL signal transmission, how is it analogue, have you ever been involved in the design of digital systems and getting a digital signal from a to b.
Late night reding of cable threads can be cheap and fun entertainment.....
This one has long since crossed the borderline of hilarious.......
Either your 1s and 0s are getting through, -- or they don't... that's the true nature of digital........
I can possibly see that grounding related noise may transfer over from a PC, but islolating grounds in a digital setup is a fairly trivial matter.... go differential...
This one has long since crossed the borderline of hilarious.......
Either your 1s and 0s are getting through, -- or they don't... that's the true nature of digital........
I can possibly see that grounding related noise may transfer over from a PC, but islolating grounds in a digital setup is a fairly trivial matter.... go differential...
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