Tube Pre Amplifier for SEWA 7 Watt ClassA MOSFET

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Bas Horneman said:

I understand... :) But what I am curious about is what do you trashy people want? ;) Just to try anything with valves? Or the best valves have to offer?

I'm not really experienced at all...it just looks that way :) But before someone can give you good advice you have to know what you want. Hence my question...must it be cheap or expensive? Transformer coupled or cap coupled...etc., etc.

I'm experienced enough to know that it is easy to make a valve pre-amp. To make something outstanding is a whole different ballgame.

A job for Mr. Aikido? Pretty simple, selectable gain, low output impedence, non-exotic power supply (maybe even share the supply) - 6DJ8 version? Maybe a single 6DJ8 triode for the input side and 6GM8 for the follower?

Sheldon
 
planet10 said:
BAS,

How much current is each section drawing? (even if i wasn't half asleep i'm not yet able to look at the circuit and figure that out). The IXYS chip has a minimum of 10 mA.

dave

from schematic in this post
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=998055#post998055
I get it the input impedance is ~50 kOhm.

The minimal output current needed we get from:
Voltage input (for maximal output) / input impedance.
The input voltage needed in relation to input impedance will give the current that must be provided.

Very correct an amplifier is always an adapter
between a source and a load.
Knowing these values, as Bas Horneman and planet10 has put it
is essential!

Read more amplifier basics:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=893062#post893062

lineup
 
Yes, the Aikido is also an excellent canditate...but with 4 tubes and a whole lot of resistors it is relatively difficult. But one could do a lot worse than buy John Broskie's boards and switched attenuators! http://www.tubecad.com

Even if one does not use the Aikido the switched attenuator kit over at tubecad is great to use with any tube preamp that is decided here.
 
Bas Horneman said:
My suggestion based on those requirements would be to build something like Douglas's (Sector7G' or Bandersnatch on diyAudio.com) Guinevere but with (a minimal reactance psu - not shown here yet). And instead of the relatively hard to get depletion mode mosfets use that IXYS 10m something part. Tube could be 5687 or the 2 dollar supertube 6n6p.


I use something similar for a DAC gain stage after a passive I/V.
http://www.ecp.cc/5687_module.html (I might even have an extra one of these boards laying around ...)

I also have a board showing up in the next few days for a 6n6p/6n30p based one of these that uses either LED or standard resistor biasing.
 
dsavitsk said:
I use something similar for a DAC gain stage after a passive I/V.
http://www.ecp.cc/5687_module.html
(I might even have an extra one of these boards laying around ...)

I also have a board showing up in the next few days for a 6n6p/6n30p based one of these that uses either LED or standard resistor biasing.

6N30P ( 6n30pi )
is one tube i have read a lot about, and from what i have understood
it is a good preamp tube - with high current output drive capacity.

The link posted by dsavitsk shows us
this little fantastic BEAUTY

An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
 
6N30P ( 6n30pi )
is a great tube. But the 6n6p is virtually the same. However it still can be bought cheap because it's fame has not spread as much. But there are many tubes one could use. With the CCS being flexible you could use any tube you fancy.

PS...dsavitsk great little pcb! That way you can change a capacitor (or psu) in a New York minute!
 
Bas Horneman said:
PS...dsavitsk great little pcb! That way you can change a capacitor (or psu) in a New York minute!

Thanks. (sorry to thread crap) I have taken to doing everything modularly like this, so that project I can swap in and out one of 3 DAC boards, 5 different gain stages (several single ended, a srpp, and an opamp), a pile of power supplies, etc (not to mention swapping different coupling caps). I am also working on a headphone amp that is the same -- there are little boards that have a PCB mount socket but also a retaining ring. All the resistors/caps, etc and terminal blocks are on each board so it takes about 3 minutes to change the amp completely. I even picked up some bottlehead hole shrinkers so it can use both octal and noval tubes.
 
Fuling said:

ECC86
is about as low in NOISE you can get with tubes.
Has been used in 1.000 of low noise preamps for almost as long as existed.
And many Professional equipements and microphone amps use it!

A short explanation of the schematic:
The triode is of course the actual gain device, operating at 15V 2mA.
The plate is loaded with a 2SK170-based CCS
and direct coupled to a cascoded Jfet White follower.


Your circuit setup is interesting
and really deserves some try out!


Thanks very much, Fuling.
from
lineup
 
Thanks for shown interest!

The circuit is under evaluation, but initial testings indicates that it is perfectly capable of driving an IRFP260-based follower to 50kHz without loss of gain.
My PSU is not quite up to the task, and either the cathode resistor or the 175R reistor in the CCS must be made adjustable to set the operation point for max linear output swing.

I´m definitely going to make something out of this some day when I have the time, there are plenty of more important projects in the pipeline right now.
 
Bas Horneman said:
Another added advantage is the low voltage b+ one can use!

Yes, this is great advantage for making a preamp for SEWA.
Same thinking as I had, Bas Horneman.

Here is another wellknown HYBRID project:
http://www.customanalogue.com/diytubegainclone/index.htm

with the diyaudio topic of:
Tube with Power IC Output Stage - JLTi

This is a Tube preamp + a Chip Amp output power amp
= Hybrid between tube and transistors.
By this diyAudio.com member:
Joe Rasmussen
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=4828

:cool:
 
I must agree with BAS a triode with a CCS

Bas Horneman has the right idea, a triode with a CCS on top. I have built this circuit to drive the grid of a 300B, should handle that MOSFET's without any issues.
 

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