Toole regulator / NS10 PCB GB
Hello,
Steen has started a GB thread.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=134387
May I suggest that we continue GB discussions there?
Cheers,
Dennis
Hello,
Steen has started a GB thread.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=134387
May I suggest that we continue GB discussions there?
Cheers,
Dennis
DVBjunky said:Some newbie did messed up the GB List - please guys check your orders.....my name and my ordered pcb are deleted and some other values are changed.
That usually happens when there are no more vacant lines and a newb is trying to order. Not everyone can find those pesky || lines. Nevertheless, it is pretty annoying.
@ 360 reg-boards now, not bad at all.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Good News, NS10 group buy
Heck, simulating circuits while listening to some music on my new Piezo headphones, which happen to be older than I am, is much more fun than writing a Comparative Justice term paper. Thus, I present a 5v version of the toolereg, sized for a 50mA load.
I have not really looked at using reference diodes, but no real reason not to. It would give us a bit of consistency, as the current versions will need to have their voltage trimmed in, especially the LED ones. My LED model has a 1.7v forward voltage, and I have seen ones anywhere from 1.5v-2.1v, though consistency between LEDs of the same model is quite a bit better than that. So, all that said, want me to take a look at using a vref IC for these LV regs?
What they hey, lets kick it up to 410 boards for this group buy. I bet you didnt know what you were getting yourself into when you volunteered for this, eh Dennis? I have run a big PCB group buy before, it isnt much fun.
DVBjunky said:@ CeToole
Thanks. It would be great and you can take your time.....dont rush....I have time
Heck, simulating circuits while listening to some music on my new Piezo headphones, which happen to be older than I am, is much more fun than writing a Comparative Justice term paper. Thus, I present a 5v version of the toolereg, sized for a 50mA load.
steenoe said:Colin, did you look into using a LM336-2,5 or LM336-5 for the low voltage versions? There might be some advantage to those and in any case they will be more consistent than different LED's.
I have not really looked at using reference diodes, but no real reason not to. It would give us a bit of consistency, as the current versions will need to have their voltage trimmed in, especially the LED ones. My LED model has a 1.7v forward voltage, and I have seen ones anywhere from 1.5v-2.1v, though consistency between LEDs of the same model is quite a bit better than that. So, all that said, want me to take a look at using a vref IC for these LV regs?
What they hey, lets kick it up to 410 boards for this group buy. I bet you didnt know what you were getting yourself into when you volunteered for this, eh Dennis? I have run a big PCB group buy before, it isnt much fun.
apassgear said:Hey Colin, no need to scare Dennis… ehhh
Thanks for posting the 5V reg details.
Cheers
Caveat venditor, baby!
I needed the 3.3v and 5v supplies for myself actually, gonna eventually do a DAC based around them, and the +/-12v regs. I might need a -5v reg too, depends if I go with the PCM1704 or AD1862.
cetoole said:
Caveat venditor, baby!
I needed the 3.3v and 5v supplies for myself actually, gonna eventually do a DAC based around them, and the +/-12v regs. I might need a -5v reg too, depends if I go with the PCM1704 or AD1862.
Sheesh Colin, you sent me googling... LOL
Are we making a GB an that one also?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Good News, NS10 group buy
Not really, I was just curious if you had made the sims on those ref's.
You better get that Law-paper done instead
We forgot to sing the Birthday song for Tony A late Happy Birthday, Tony
cetoole said:
So, all that said, want me to take a look at using a vref IC for these LV regs?
Not really, I was just curious if you had made the sims on those ref's.
You better get that Law-paper done instead
We forgot to sing the Birthday song for Tony A late Happy Birthday, Tony
Wait, what? Man, you guys are full of surprises. Trying to control dissipation on the shunt reg input CCS? Dont pre-regulate too close, it works actually a bit better with more voltage drop across the CCS. Of course, that is ripple rejection, and especially with a CLC filter AND a prereg, that really wont be an issue, eh?Manu said:Last version of the Raw supply (take #2)
Manu
cop: Mod : could you please delete the pic from my post #514 ... as it is the wrong one ... tnx)
Oh yeah, sorry I forgot Tony: feliz cumpleaños, mi amigo.
Reg V2 (Dec 7)
'Evening Manu,
If you are going to expand you "raw" supply into a full regulator, could you add a snubber R-C network next to the inductor across the first capacitor C101 - 1/4 w about 470R and MKC about 4nF and if you have some more room left, add another 10nF across both of these - gets rid of diode ringing that is still present even with the u.fast diodes.
If any more room at output (!) add a Carlos snubber there, too to get rid of the LM3xx device noise.
Then, to top it right off, add a second TO220 and incorporate a Gyrator like the Teddy-Reg and we'll call it the Manic-"Raw"Reg! (just kidding!)
Articles about snubbers can be found at TAA 3/94 (yeah, back then!) by Scott Morovich - and follow up discussisn by Jim hagerman TAA 7/95) and much more since. Snubbers DO makes a big difference to the sound for just 2 (or 3) components when you get it right.
Can also fit a Solen PP to the shunt-Reg board (easy available in Eu) altho have found the Jentzens to sound better than either the Rifa, Wima or Solens, but they all do work okay.
'Evening Manu,
If you are going to expand you "raw" supply into a full regulator, could you add a snubber R-C network next to the inductor across the first capacitor C101 - 1/4 w about 470R and MKC about 4nF and if you have some more room left, add another 10nF across both of these - gets rid of diode ringing that is still present even with the u.fast diodes.
If any more room at output (!) add a Carlos snubber there, too to get rid of the LM3xx device noise.
Then, to top it right off, add a second TO220 and incorporate a Gyrator like the Teddy-Reg and we'll call it the Manic-"Raw"Reg! (just kidding!)
Articles about snubbers can be found at TAA 3/94 (yeah, back then!) by Scott Morovich - and follow up discussisn by Jim hagerman TAA 7/95) and much more since. Snubbers DO makes a big difference to the sound for just 2 (or 3) components when you get it right.
Can also fit a Solen PP to the shunt-Reg board (easy available in Eu) altho have found the Jentzens to sound better than either the Rifa, Wima or Solens, but they all do work okay.
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