There are some nice examples out there but Im looking for one in particular that was discussed in a thread about a year ago, Im having no luck with search. I need help on the name. This kit went for around 300 and I would like to order one.
And if you could be so kind as to post pictures and a little info on some you have built we could start a dedicated picography on those fine little speakers (since we all like pictures that is
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And if you could be so kind as to post pictures and a little info on some you have built we could start a dedicated picography on those fine little speakers (since we all like pictures that is
)Hi,
I suspect you are looking for the "Continuum" search on that.
If your not, check it out any way.
http://meniscusaudio.com/continuum-bare-bones-pair-p-1399.html
YMMV but I like it more than the the Monacor based stuff sold by
Sterling Broadcast, which they now seemed to have ditched.
rgds, sreten.
I suspect you are looking for the "Continuum" search on that.
If your not, check it out any way.
http://meniscusaudio.com/continuum-bare-bones-pair-p-1399.html
YMMV but I like it more than the the Monacor based stuff sold by
Sterling Broadcast, which they now seemed to have ditched.
rgds, sreten.
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Have you seen these for LS3/5 related diy stuff?
LS3/5a cabinet kits, drivers, crossovers and parts.
Not cheap though...
LS3/5a cabinet kits, drivers, crossovers and parts.
Not cheap though...
No thats the first time, thanks. By the looks of it falcon offers some very nice and complete kits from the material on down to the electronics. Pricing doesn't seem unreasonable to me at all and nice varying selection on the bang for your buck.
Lynn Olson, who is a guy I listen to, reckons the Vifa P13WH-00-08 is plain better than the B110:
The Art of Speaker Design, Part II
Sadly, they don't make that one anymore...
The Art of Speaker Design, Part II
Sadly, they don't make that one anymore...
Hi,
Chalk and cheese, the Vifa is the definitive
small bassmid of the period by a long way.
rgds, sreten.
FWIW the LS3/5A used a B110 selected off
the lower side of the bell curve of typical
B110 production, which meant its driver
only made commercial sense if KEF could
still sell the rest of the production of the
B110 in their models or to other parties.
The bell curve being the amount of peaking.
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It's a variation of Jeff Bagby's Continuum with different drivers:
https://www.salksound.com/continuum%20-%20home.htm
There's a lot that is different from the BBC LS3/5A. At some point all these speakers become a sort of mere homage to the original.
A bigger cabinet makes sense with modern drivers. Jeff uses a metal tweeter too. Then you think, maybe reflex would be easier:
Peerless HDS PPB 830860
https://www.salksound.com/continuum%20-%20home.htm
There's a lot that is different from the BBC LS3/5A. At some point all these speakers become a sort of mere homage to the original.
A bigger cabinet makes sense with modern drivers. Jeff uses a metal tweeter too. Then you think, maybe reflex would be easier:
Peerless HDS PPB 830860
Funny. I have just finished my jeff bagby continuum.It's a variation of Jeff Bagby's Continuum with different drivers:
https://www.salksound.com/continuum - home.htm
There's a lot that is different from the BBC LS3/5A. At some point all these speakers become a sort of mere homage to the original.
A bigger cabinet makes sense with modern drivers. Jeff uses a metal tweeter too. Then you think, maybe reflex would be easier:
Peerless HDS PPB 830860
they aer break in as we speak.
they sound really good right now, like amazingly good especially since they need to break in. they totally disapear, the highs are some of the best I heard. I'll add more details in a week!
I see what you are saying, I much preferred the sound of my Ls3/5a to my copies using same enclosures and construction, I.e 12mm birch ply, bitchumin sheet panel dampening and beech baterns all things meant to contribute to the sound of the ls3 but with different drivers. It was the ls3/5a that got me into diyaudio.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/25590-diyaudio-reference-speaker-project-36.html#post2795457
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/25590-diyaudio-reference-speaker-project-35.html#post2794057
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/25590-diyaudio-reference-speaker-project-36.html#post2795457
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/25590-diyaudio-reference-speaker-project-35.html#post2794057
I built a kit based on Dalesford drivers that where "similar" to the KEF, the design was published in Practical HiFi I think. The worst speakers I have ever had. Everyone that listened to them remarked "what is wrong with them". Low effiency, a worse peak than the KEF driver more eq in the crossover and no dynamics at all in the end.
In my opinion the KEF 101 sounded better than the LS3/5A. That big hump 100-150 Hz might work well in it's intended application as a nearfield monitor but in a living room, not so much.
In my opinion the KEF 101 sounded better than the LS3/5A. That big hump 100-150 Hz might work well in it's intended application as a nearfield monitor but in a living room, not so much.
It's extraordinary and impressive that Falcon have put replica B110s and T27s back into production. Brand new LS3/5a speakers can be built by DIYers again. Something of a labour of love for Malcolm Jones I expect. Another interesting option for this kind of small speaker is another of Jeff Bagby's designs, the Piccolo, which uses SB Acoustics drivers, from Meniscus in the USA.
Hi
What is your ultimate aim with this project Nostalgia or performance?
If nostalgia LS3/5a cabinet kits, drivers, crossovers and parts.
makes an exact replica. If you love the sound of the original this is the best you will do. If you want maximum performance The Kef LS50 will simply blow it away. heck my Silver Flute W14RC25-08 & XT25 custom 2 ways will eat em for breckie forget em by lunch and turn them into a nicely coiled stool by dinner. They do have a very addictive mid range that sounds like no other and can throw a spooky precise image but in the performance stakes they have been left behind. Sobering to know that progress over the last 40 years has been by smaller increments than most imagine. Hence their continued popularity
What is your ultimate aim with this project Nostalgia or performance?
If nostalgia LS3/5a cabinet kits, drivers, crossovers and parts.
makes an exact replica. If you love the sound of the original this is the best you will do. If you want maximum performance The Kef LS50 will simply blow it away. heck my Silver Flute W14RC25-08 & XT25 custom 2 ways will eat em for breckie forget em by lunch and turn them into a nicely coiled stool by dinner. They do have a very addictive mid range that sounds like no other and can throw a spooky precise image but in the performance stakes they have been left behind. Sobering to know that progress over the last 40 years has been by smaller increments than most imagine. Hence their continued popularity
I've no desire to reproduce the LS3/5a but the cabinets have always been good.
For use with a Jordan Eikona fullrange driver, I bought a pair of Stirling Broadcast cabinets, which are based on the BBC Kingswood reference LS3/5a, featuring 9mm thin-wall cabinets. They are not cheap but are supplied fully-veneered and the quality is superb.
Stirling Broadcast - LARGEST STOCK OF USED/EX-DEMO/END OF LINE BROADCAST EQUIPMENT IN EUROPE !
They produce full LS3/5a kits using modern drive units, which are available on their eBay shop. If none are currently listed, send them an email as they're very helpful.
For use with a Jordan Eikona fullrange driver, I bought a pair of Stirling Broadcast cabinets, which are based on the BBC Kingswood reference LS3/5a, featuring 9mm thin-wall cabinets. They are not cheap but are supplied fully-veneered and the quality is superb.
Stirling Broadcast - LARGEST STOCK OF USED/EX-DEMO/END OF LINE BROADCAST EQUIPMENT IN EUROPE !
They produce full LS3/5a kits using modern drive units, which are available on their eBay shop. If none are currently listed, send them an email as they're very helpful.
A history lesson is interesting with the LS3/5A. It was designed to be used in BBC broadcast vans. Hence the bass quality could be compromised. And it is compromised very severely. It's really a more accurate MONITOR version of the KEF Cresta here lovingly restored by Mr. Ives, a diyaudio member.
I don't think that sort of speaker will really please you at home in a bigger room. If you want to do your homework, it's very hard to find drivers like that any more. The Vifa D19TD Mylar dome might be close to a T27 in tonality. A Peerless 830860 is quite similar to the B110.
I could have a bash at that sort of thing. FWIW, Troels Gravesen implements a crossover below for accurate 5" monitors which, IMO, has great similarity to the BBC filter, down to the midrange notch, third order tweeter filter and Zobel.
SEAS 5INCH
Nothing stopping you building a ply cabinet, but I'd make it much bigger than the puny 5 litres of the LS3/5A. Unless you live in a van, of course.
I don't think that sort of speaker will really please you at home in a bigger room. If you want to do your homework, it's very hard to find drivers like that any more. The Vifa D19TD Mylar dome might be close to a T27 in tonality. A Peerless 830860 is quite similar to the B110.
I could have a bash at that sort of thing. FWIW, Troels Gravesen implements a crossover below for accurate 5" monitors which, IMO, has great similarity to the BBC filter, down to the midrange notch, third order tweeter filter and Zobel.
SEAS 5INCH
Nothing stopping you building a ply cabinet, but I'd make it much bigger than the puny 5 litres of the LS3/5A. Unless you live in a van, of course.
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