Found this while googling for the mentioned paper I found this:
https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/AND8311-D.PDF
Havnt read it, but it looks good.
TroelsM
https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/AND8311-D.PDF
Havnt read it, but it looks good.
TroelsM
Found this while googling for the mentioned paper I found this:
https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/AND8311-D.PDF
Havnt read it, but it looks good.
TroelsM
It is fine, and it refers to Bo Yang - the author oft the dissertation I mentioned above.
I have been thinking about an way to use off-set winding and also making the windings "taper off" as shown in the sketch. A quick test reveals that it should be possible to hit 45primary windings, and 100uH+300uH primary inductance with a approx 0,5mm gap in the center.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
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@voltvide: From what I can read in the differenr pdf's it appears that the x-former-window (the space to wind the pri and sec) is somewhat tailored to the application. So a transformer from an typical ATX-psu have a long and narrow window to allow best possible coupling and a x-former suitable for side-by-side (two-chambers) wil have a more square-ish window.
TroelsM
TroelsM
I am pretty certain when I did LLC transformer the two windings were next to each other and not on top of each other.
This is how you get a leaky inductive system.
I used a PIC micro to generate 3 frequencies.
1/ On power up a very high frequency to cope with virtual short on output.
2/ Frequency slightly above resonance to give full power out.
3/ Frequency quite a bit above resonance to regulate output when feedback signal said output voltage was slightly above required voltage.
I built the transformer then connected it to a sig gen through a resistor so I could calculate resonant frequency. From that I got the frequencies for PIC micro to generate.
There is a happy medium with the applied frequency.
Not so high that little power is output and not so low that capacitive mode cause mosfets to destruct.
I also put a small ohm resistor in the lower leg of the low side mosfet to monitor current.
I monitored it with the PIC and if a high current event occurred the PIC tripped out.
This must have saved loads of blown mosfets while testing.
This is how you get a leaky inductive system.
I used a PIC micro to generate 3 frequencies.
1/ On power up a very high frequency to cope with virtual short on output.
2/ Frequency slightly above resonance to give full power out.
3/ Frequency quite a bit above resonance to regulate output when feedback signal said output voltage was slightly above required voltage.
I built the transformer then connected it to a sig gen through a resistor so I could calculate resonant frequency. From that I got the frequencies for PIC micro to generate.
There is a happy medium with the applied frequency.
Not so high that little power is output and not so low that capacitive mode cause mosfets to destruct.
I also put a small ohm resistor in the lower leg of the low side mosfet to monitor current.
I monitored it with the PIC and if a high current event occurred the PIC tripped out.
This must have saved loads of blown mosfets while testing.
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I am pretty certain when I did LLC transformer the two windings were next to each other and not on top of each other.
This is how you get a leaky inductive system.
I used a PIC micro to generate 3 frequencies.
1/ On power up a very high frequency to cope with virtual short on output.
2/ Frequency slightly above resonance to give full power out.
3/ Frequency quite a bit above resonance to regulate output when feedback signal said output voltage was slightly above required voltage.
I built the transformer then connected it to a sig gen through a resistor so I could calculate resonant frequency. From that I got the frequencies for PIC micro to generate.
Thank you for the input. I see that most (if not all?) of the LLC constructions a side-by-side winding. With the stuff I have I cannot get a inductance-ratio of more than 1:2 and according to the literature you want the ratio to be between 1:3 and 1:10.
I just measured a " partly overlapping" transformer that measures around 360uH with sec open and 60uH with sec shorted. One problem is that the exposed part of the primary gets a little hot, maybe because the exposed part is the primary cause of the leakage?
It sounds clever with the PIC solution, but the LLC controllers are so cheap that the controller is not my main problem.
Did you make the transformer from scratch? did you measure Lp and Lm?
Kind regards TroelsM
I would suggest you read thru this thread completely, it has all the info you need plus explanations of the why,spreadsheet and a 500watt diy design that is simple and works with feedback.
IRS27951 / IRS27952
IRS27951 / IRS27952
I can just click the link and download the pdf without problems. But maybe this is because I am in the Netherlands.You can't access the pdf directly...get through the site first.
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