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OPT PP for GU50 Triode ?

In class AB₁ I get 16W with 8%, are you driving in class AB₂ with input swing over 68vp?

I noticed at post #18 that you have -108 Vdc as bias voltage ??

My results are at class A. Attached the plate current of one GU50 at full drive.
As you see the plate current do not drop below some 60 mA.
The drive voltage at g1 is 68 Vpp. DC-bias at g1 = -68 V.
 

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I read on your schematic 97+7=104mA.
Is it the maximum value?
If yes what is the lowest ?
And working point ?
I have no lt spice and don't understand the push-pull load line

104 mA is plate current + screen grid current (=cathode current) at idle (no signal condition).
Look at my post #24. There is the plot of plate current.
The max. value of the cathode current at full drive is 310 mA and min. 65 mA.

Working point ?? It is the idle condition.
Look at the schematic: Ua/Ug2 = 428 V, Ik = 104 mA, Ug1 = -68 V.
 
104 mA is plate current + screen grid current (=cathode current) at idle (no signal condition).
Look at my post #24. There is the plot of plate current.
The max. value of the cathode current at full drive is 310 mA and min. 65 mA.

Working point ?? It is the idle condition.
Look at the schematic: Ua/Ug2 = 428 V, Ik = 104 mA, Ug1 = -68 V.
Maximum current for this transformer is 170ma even it is a 50w transformer
 
Here's a schematic of an idea using PP GU-50 in triode and two 6N8S (= 6SN7).
The B+ is 400V and it uses fixed bias for the PP GU-50 pair.

The simulation predicts very low distortion and about 17 watts max power out to the speaker.

It's a 'Williamson' driver circuit.

The 4.7k ohm global feedback resistor is just an approximation to get about 6dB NFB.

It's just an idea. But it looks pretty good in theory.

PS - The output transformer model used is for a Dyna A470, which has an approx. 5k primary impedance.
 

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The concertina doesn't swing that many volts. It's followed by a differential pair that swings lots of volts.

All the concertina does is split phase. That way the differential pair does not split phase, so that stage can be a more effective driver. The differential pair receives a balanced input, after the phase splitter.

One of the problems with using a long-tail pair (LTP) as a combined phase splitter and driver is that it has both those jobs to do.

I think what you're looking to use is commonly called a 'Mullard driver', named after the Mullard 5-20 amplifier. That will work, and will be more stable with negative feedback applied since it has fewer low frequency pole points in the signal path. However, it will be less linear, so you'll be tempted to apply more negative feedback, which might cause instability.

Everything is a compromise between this and that. Nothing is perfect.
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