http://www.mivoc.com/mivoc/PDF/AW2000-Datenblatt_WEB.pdf
8" driver
fs 30 HZ
rms 120w peak 300w
4 ohm
35 euros....
speaker trade - mivoc - Einzelchassis - AW 3000
12"
fs 27 HZ
rms 180w peak450 w
4 ohm
49.00 euros.
Anyone used these? Can't understand all the spec as its in german but its mentioning passive radiators and BRs- wondering if it could be used in a sealed enclosure?
8" driver
fs 30 HZ
rms 120w peak 300w
4 ohm
35 euros....
speaker trade - mivoc - Einzelchassis - AW 3000
12"
fs 27 HZ
rms 180w peak450 w
4 ohm
49.00 euros.
Anyone used these? Can't understand all the spec as its in german but its mentioning passive radiators and BRs- wondering if it could be used in a sealed enclosure?
Used this LinearTeam
when I input the given specs for the 8" its giving me an 8 litre optimum box for a sealed... is that correct? Seems v small
when I input the given specs for the 8" its giving me an 8 litre optimum box for a sealed... is that correct? Seems v small
Tiny Vas, strong motor = small cab tuned high.
GM
8 litres... thats what I'm looking for, good performance from small sealed box
...except that this unit works much better in a BR!
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Anyone used these?
I am actually now building a classic 3way monitor using the 12" AW3000
I decided on a closed box around 40-45 liter netto
Whether its a sub driver or just a nice woofer would be a matter of priorities
I think of it as a woofer
49EUR is a very nice price
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hello.
mivoc is a wellknown trademark in germany (see speakertrade/solingen).
there are two german speaker builder magazine's (klang&ton ,and hobby hifi) that worked out examples with this.............
k&t 6/2006 an active subwoofer called versacube (aw300 in 35 liter closed) with a hypex ampmodul....................
k&t 4/2006 a passive bandpass box (two aw3000 speakers front to front built in one vented box...........translation?)
and hobby hifi 5/06 and 6/06...........
greetings
mivoc is a wellknown trademark in germany (see speakertrade/solingen).
there are two german speaker builder magazine's (klang&ton ,and hobby hifi) that worked out examples with this.............
k&t 6/2006 an active subwoofer called versacube (aw300 in 35 liter closed) with a hypex ampmodul....................
k&t 4/2006 a passive bandpass box (two aw3000 speakers front to front built in one vented box...........translation?)
and hobby hifi 5/06 and 6/06...........
greetings
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When i modeled both, the smaller unit (AW2000) in a bass reflex gets a very good response with a box volume of 29 litres and a Fb of around 24. It drops slowly/smoothly from 100 hz to an F3 of under 30 hz, if I roll off (3rd order) at 70 hz or so. Great performance for such a small enclosure(if this is correct).
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datasheet aw2000 in post 1
gehäuseempfehlung...........box recommended;
geschlossen.......closed (box);
bassreflex........vented (box);
basskorrektur.........bass corrected (with an amp);
diese gehäuseempfehlungen sind nur anhaltspunkte..........these box recommendations are only clues;
the examples are with use of an active bassmodule (am 80) and bass amplified +3.......+4db;
greets
gehäuseempfehlung...........box recommended;
geschlossen.......closed (box);
bassreflex........vented (box);
basskorrektur.........bass corrected (with an amp);
diese gehäuseempfehlungen sind nur anhaltspunkte..........these box recommendations are only clues;
the examples are with use of an active bassmodule (am 80) and bass amplified +3.......+4db;
greets
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They both look like nice drivers for a 6th order vented box. They will probably require passive radiators (because of the small box size).
The 8 looks like it would be good in a 15L box, tuned to Fs, with a Q=2 filter at Fs.
The 12 looks like it would be good in a 40L box, tuned to Fs, with a Q=2 filter at Fs.
The 8 looks like it would be good in a 15L box, tuned to Fs, with a Q=2 filter at Fs.
The 12 looks like it would be good in a 40L box, tuned to Fs, with a Q=2 filter at Fs.
Thanks MJF! Also this 10" driver is pretty good at 55 Euros;
Has the same Vas as the 8", 37 L
F3 of 27 hz in a vented 35 litre cab.
http://www.mivoc.com/mivoc/PDF/AWM104-Datenblatt_WEB.pdf
Has the same Vas as the 8", 37 L
F3 of 27 hz in a vented 35 litre cab.
http://www.mivoc.com/mivoc/PDF/AWM104-Datenblatt_WEB.pdf
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aw 2000, low vas, decent bass, cheap price-
this ones not cheap but has a vas of 100 -
100 litres f3 22 hz
http://www.mivoc.com/mivoc/details-einzel.html?marke=mivoc&artikel=HCM 12 T
this ones not cheap but has a vas of 100 -
100 litres f3 22 hz
http://www.mivoc.com/mivoc/details-einzel.html?marke=mivoc&artikel=HCM 12 T
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not cheap but has a vas of 100 -
100 litres f3 22 hz
Almost makes the 12" Morel cheap
5" voicecoil on a 12" driver, thats a monster
Highish Qts ought to be perfect in closed
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Don't put the Mivocs in a vented box.
Use a closed enclosure.
The AWM104 is a great value driver in 10-14 liter closed.
Good enough to have a -3dB of 30Hz and a maximum of 100dB.
(with some active filters)
The Mivoc drivers al the same as the Raveland AXX serie
Here some pictures of my mini subwoofer:
And with the Raveland:
Use a closed enclosure.
The AWM104 is a great value driver in 10-14 liter closed.
Good enough to have a -3dB of 30Hz and a maximum of 100dB.
(with some active filters)
The Mivoc drivers al the same as the Raveland AXX serie
Here some pictures of my mini subwoofer:
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Don't put the Mivocs in a vented box.
Use a closed enclosure.
??? Why? The only reason I can think of is if their published specs are really far off, but your tiny subs indicate otherwise. Nice finish work BTW.
GM
What would be the benefit for a BR subwoofer?
The T/S specs with the enclosure make it that you'll need a long tube.
Also the groupdelay would be horrible.
So, unless you want use it for HT subwoofer I would recommend it in a closed box.
30Hz and 100dB is ok for the most rooms I think or you can make two mini-subs to have even more SPL.
(would be also better for in-room resonances etc)
(the curves of my mini-sub where all sanded by hand )
The T/S specs with the enclosure make it that you'll need a long tube.
Also the groupdelay would be horrible.
So, unless you want use it for HT subwoofer I would recommend it in a closed box.
30Hz and 100dB is ok for the most rooms I think or you can make two mini-subs to have even more SPL.
(would be also better for in-room resonances etc)
(the curves of my mini-sub where all sanded by hand )
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What would be the benefit for a BR subwoofer?
The T/S specs with the enclosure make it that you'll need a long tube.
Also the groupdelay would be horrible.
So, unless you want use it for HT subwoofer I would recommend it in a closed box.
30Hz and 100dB is ok for the most rooms I think or you can make two mini-subs to have even more SPL.
(would be also better for in-room resonances etc)
This is interesting - I was thinking of using the AW2000 in a vented sub or subs, i thought it suited BR. I was trying to get just below 30 hz -3db so these specs are very good- excuse my ignorance, what is group delay and why do these suffer from it?
edit- when I model AWM 104 on linear team in a 18 litre sealed, I can't get nr that f3 of 30 hz- its more like 50 hz (depending on where the crossover point is). Also two german sites give different specs on this driver...
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