Laminating cabinets

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Cal Weldon said:
badman,

I don't have a router.


Oh Cal....
I'm so sorry.....
With all the work going into these, I'd HIGHLY recommend finding a router to use, and making a subbaffle to enable flush mounting. Driver edge diffraction, especially with the high frequency crossover arrangements favored with the WRs, is a BIGGIE, and will be a big performance limitation, something you sure don't want in a project with this much effort. A different way to go, would be to aquire some felt, foam, or other absorbent material to mount to the baffle around the drivers, though this is obviously less attractive. I've sometimes thought that the barrier foam from parts express (or its big brother, 'black hole 5') would work well for this, the 'barrier' layer acting as a baffle plane, and the foam over it acting to virtually extend the baffle and suppress baffle artifacts.

Anyway, I highly recommend pursuing some form of creating a flush baffle plane.
 
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badman said:
I'd HIGHLY recommend finding a router to use, and making a subbaffle to enable flush mounting. Driver edge diffraction, especially with the high frequency crossover arrangements favored with the WRs, is a BIGGIE

I'll bring some thick wool felt over when i come at Easter. It will obviate the need to flush mount them, and ameriolate the negative effects of the grills -- if you could figure out how to stiffen the back of the felt you could use it as grill frame.

dave
 
Dave, Don and badman,

They sound round and smooth like with no sharp edges to the sound, except maybe at the top end. ;)

I think the felt idea is a good one, not sure how I was going to router it with the truncated frames anyway.

Keep in mind these were a learning experience. I wanted to find out how feasible it is to laminate with only basic tools. The next pair are larger and a lot more involved with separate chambers, an open baffle section, built in amp and five drivers per cabinet etc. Perhaps I will spend a little more time with them.

Thanks Ruth, I like the shape too.
 
Hi Cal.

I would have used a few layers of thin bendable ply, laminated with pva glue.

That is how Tulip was done.
 

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Cal: Have you thought of an alternate arrangement for your 2 woofers and one tweeter other than MTM?
How about putting one woofer above the other so the trucated sides are common and horizontal? Then place the tweeter to the side, in the crease between the woofers. Then make a mirror image for the other side. This way you avoid the comb filtering that a MTM inherently has somewhere, plus you get the advantage of having mirror-image left and right speakers for experimenting and solving more set-up problems (and asymmetric diffraction, if you're into that). Or am I talking out of my bum?
With a flat top and bottom cabinet edge in common with the edge of the outside trucations, it would give a tidy look when recessed. Does that make sense?
 
Tosh said:
Cal: Have you thought of an alternate arrangement for your 2 woofers and one tweeter other than MTM?

No.

Or am I talking out of my bum?[/B]


No.

With a flat top and bottom cabinet edge in common with the edge of the outside trucations, it would give a tidy look when recessed. Does that make sense? [/B]


Yes.

I like the appearance of them now.

I don't plan to recess the drivers. I have now roughed out the grilles. They are made of 3/4" material and will be close fitting to the frames except at the tweeters, and are heavily flared starting at the equivalent of the driver flange thickness. I am looking forward to listening to how that affects things.

Again it seems that a lot of persons wish the best for these speakers and that's great. What would I do without you guys? Problem is, I can't get past the fact that I'm playing around with a couple of 4.5" drivers and a little dome tweeter. These aren't exactly my style. I'm having fun and all but they're still small drivers in a small cabinet. :)

I plan to start the painting soon so will post more pics.
 
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