Hi thanks.
Am I the only one? AFAIR I have never found anything good associated with Mullard
Mullard Pi mode class A
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This circuit has been discussed in this thread:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/solid-state/100736-mullard-ss-power-amplifier.html
--gannaji
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www.Samritatrust.org
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Hi Mike,
Interesting circuit you have there (I think I have never seen it before
I think I will build your amp. What is that resistance in series with power supply cap? How much current running through each output transistor and driver? What is the possible range of the rail voltage? Why is the 1pF at the input?
Glad ur interested Jay
That Resistor just repesents PSU internal impedance.
1pF just left there by mistake
Suggest you build it in spice first to get your head around it.
I would make voltage about 22 - 24V
The current was it's weak point it, was too low, can't remember exactly what now perhaps 1.3A. I would suggest 2 - 2.5A per side
Your interest has inpired me and aroused a feeling of responsibility to offer you a half decent up to date diagram.
So I just revamped it to what I would to now - will post shortly
Here it is.
Had to go to mosfets - just works better with them
I used irfp044n's - Lateral would be better but didn't have models for them in this spice program.
The three red resistors are trimmers & are used for set up
Top one adjusts o/p voltage - set to midpoint
Bottom two adjust o/p stage bias current.
This simulates much better that previous posted circuit particularly HD & Stability.
cheers
mike
p.s. i/p 100pF should be removed if u use 10R series i/p resistors
Had to go to mosfets - just works better with them
I used irfp044n's - Lateral would be better but didn't have models for them in this spice program.
The three red resistors are trimmers & are used for set up
Top one adjusts o/p voltage - set to midpoint
Bottom two adjust o/p stage bias current.
This simulates much better that previous posted circuit particularly HD & Stability.
cheers
mike
p.s. i/p 100pF should be removed if u use 10R series i/p resistors
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Thanks Mike.
I wont probably build the mosfet version soon enough because I have many others already in the waiting list (on going).
But the bipolar version is a must build for me because of many reasons:
(1) I have plenty of heatsinks
(2) I have hundreds of NPN-only bipolars, mostly in TO-3 (4-16MHz)
(3) The only topology I trust for "quasi-complementary" bipolar amp is the JLH
(4) I want single ended supply because I like a limited number of big caps in the power supply, and I have many single-secondary transformers. And the charm here is the in-existence of output cap!
(5) I think the balanced circuit will improve efficiency?
(6) etc
So it is very likely that I will keep this amp, and wait for future upgrades
I decided to play around around with the original design to see if I could arrive at a good upgraded version. Still thinking in terms of a balanced final product but using the simple S/E version to avoid doing everything twice.
I tried different approaches in every part of the cct and this is where I ended up. I would regard this as a good starting point and try some variations in real life.
As well as focusing on HD & stability I tried to find a topology that got the best current sharing between the o/p devices. The boot strap beat everything else in this regard giving a possible 3A peak at the O/P with a 2A standing current. This in conjuction with i/p cct CCS & MF driver also gives very good HD figure.
I tried different approaches in every part of the cct and this is where I ended up. I would regard this as a good starting point and try some variations in real life.
As well as focusing on HD & stability I tried to find a topology that got the best current sharing between the o/p devices. The boot strap beat everything else in this regard giving a possible 3A peak at the O/P with a 2A standing current. This in conjuction with i/p cct CCS & MF driver also gives very good HD figure.
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I would suggest a socket to allow quick subjective assessment of different i/p devices.
In spice the mostfet gave a slight gain / phase advantage over a BJT so I left the mosfet in place.
Didn't simulate with a jfet but worth a try. OLG might be less with Jfet
The i/p cap could be 1uF ( 100uF was just an experiment )
mike
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Hi Mike!
As far as I can see: The load at top and bottom of the phase splitter is not the same ACwise ( 154 ohm and 77 ohm ). Meaning that you are feeding the upper output device twice the voltage as the bottom device. This would not be a problem with BJT outputs, as they are current controlled, and AC current would be the same on top and bottom of the phase splitter. Not so with MosFets.
Thorsten Larsen
As far as I can see: The load at top and bottom of the phase splitter is not the same ACwise ( 154 ohm and 77 ohm ). Meaning that you are feeding the upper output device twice the voltage as the bottom device. This would not be a problem with BJT outputs, as they are current controlled, and AC current would be the same on top and bottom of the phase splitter. Not so with MosFets.
Thorsten Larsen
Hi thorsten,
The driver stage resistance values are just governed by ohms law - no choice in the ratios for a given current otherwise the o/p will not be centred between the rails.
These are not complementary o/p devices comparing those two values is not really valid. The o/p devices are not that sensitive to driving impedance so this is not such a big deal - check it out in spice I think you will see that it works quite elegantly.
Actually under detailed spice analysis of current sharing, this o/p arrangement performed better than anything else I tried - so much more elegant than using a CCS in the driver stage.
Hope this clarifies to some extent.
edit: perhaps the boot strap resistor values could be experimented with - didn't try that - but I wouldn't expect the difference to be enormous.
The driver stage resistance values are just governed by ohms law - no choice in the ratios for a given current otherwise the o/p will not be centred between the rails.
These are not complementary o/p devices comparing those two values is not really valid. The o/p devices are not that sensitive to driving impedance so this is not such a big deal - check it out in spice I think you will see that it works quite elegantly.
Actually under detailed spice analysis of current sharing, this o/p arrangement performed better than anything else I tried - so much more elegant than using a CCS in the driver stage.
Hope this clarifies to some extent.
edit: perhaps the boot strap resistor values could be experimented with - didn't try that - but I wouldn't expect the difference to be enormous.
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I'm afraid that you read a little bit more on how to build this thing and how to fire it up, else you'll probably fire it up.
In short, be sure to have low rail voltage (eg 5V or so) and have one of these variable resistors adjusted so that you have minimum bias current. Then adjust DC offset, let it warm up a little more and keep DC offset small.
The start increasing bias current. If everything is still ok, go for higher rails voltage and gradually work your way up to the desired Ig (bias current) while keeping DC-offset close to 0.
succes, MArco
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