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it would make it very speedy to try many different drivers for any one geometry.

Hi xrk971,

Doesn't the existing Driver Database feature allow you to enter the driver parameters just once, and to then recall them at any time, for any record?

Kind regards,

David
 

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Hi xrk971,

Doesn't the existing Driver Database feature allow you to enter the driver parameters just once, and to then recall them at any time, for any record?

Kind regards,

David

That is helpful, but upon first entry, does one still need to put the values into the little dialog entry boxes on the front panel?

My question comes from the fact that I have a database that looks like this (but with about 200 drivers) which I simply copy and paste for use in Akabak. I don't want to have to type the data into dialog boxes for each entry. I also like to have ability to have a comment that lets me add notes. Akabak can take the following info in order, and it has units as typed.

Code:
Def_Driver 'BC15SW115'  |B&C 15 in Qts 0.24, 13.5mm xmax, 96dB, 1700w, Oct 30, 2014
 Sd=855cm2 
 Bl=30.0Tm 
 Qms=4.4
 Qes=0.25
 Mms=200g
 fs=35Hz 
 Vas=112.3L
 Le=1.8mH 
 Re=5.0ohm 

Def_Driver 'RS100-4'  |Dayton RS100 40hm, 86 dB, 0.53 Qts, 4mm xmax, Dec 1, 2014
 Sd=35.3cm2 
 Bl=3.18Tm 
 Qms=2.55
 Qes=0.66
 Mms=4.25g
 fs=82Hz 
 Vas=1.45L
 Le=0.28mH 
 Re=2.96ohm

Def_Driver  '10CL51' | B&C LF driver 10 in 95 dB Qts 0.39, xmax 6mm,150 watts AES, 9.7in bolt circle, 9.1in cutout dia, Oct 2, 2014 
  SD=320cm2   |Piston
  fs=60Hz
  Mms=31.5g
  Qms=3.80
  Qes=0.44
  Re=5.2ohm 
  Bl=12.0Tm
  Le=0.80mH
  Vas=31.0L
 
That is helpful, but upon first entry, does one still need to put the values into the little dialog entry boxes on the front panel?

My question comes from the fact that I have a database that looks like this (but with about 200 drivers) which I simply copy and paste for use in Akabak. I don't want to have to type the data into dialog boxes for each entry. I also like to have ability to have a comment that lets me add notes. Akabak can take the following info in order, and it has units as typed.

Code:
Def_Driver 'BC15SW115'  |B&C 15 in Qts 0.24, 13.5mm xmax, 96dB, 1700w, Oct 30, 2014
 Sd=855cm2 
 Bl=30.0Tm 
 Qms=4.4
 Qes=0.25
 Mms=200g
 fs=35Hz 
 Vas=112.3L
 Le=1.8mH 
 Re=5.0ohm 

Def_Driver 'RS100-4'  |Dayton RS100 40hm, 86 dB, 0.53 Qts, 4mm xmax, Dec 1, 2014
 Sd=35.3cm2 
 Bl=3.18Tm 
 Qms=2.55
 Qes=0.66
 Mms=4.25g
 fs=82Hz 
 Vas=1.45L
 Le=0.28mH 
 Re=2.96ohm

Def_Driver  '10CL51' | B&C LF driver 10 in 95 dB Qts 0.39, xmax 6mm,150 watts AES, 9.7in bolt circle, 9.1in cutout dia, Oct 2, 2014 
  SD=320cm2   |Piston
  fs=60Hz
  Mms=31.5g
  Qms=3.80
  Qes=0.44
  Re=5.2ohm 
  Bl=12.0Tm
  Le=0.80mH
  Vas=31.0L

All you have to do is create a new file from the initial model from the input screen. There is a text field at the bottom of the input screen. You can always do a Find on any saved model when you launch HR. When I get back to my desk, I'll send a screen shot.
 
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I hope the pics explain the process to you X! Just type over the red text. When you save the file, the new text will be saved.

Thanks for the explanation, but are you saying there is a way to paste the text file TS parameters into HR? I don't want to click on each entry and have to type the TS params in. And in the case of most drivers, I do not have CMS and RMS and would have to click on it and do another step to calculate.
 
Hi xrk971,

upon first entry, does one still need to put the values into the little dialog entry boxes on the front panel?

Yes one does - and that is not going to change :).

I don't want to have to type the data into dialog boxes for each entry.

It is actually not too bad once you get used to it - if you spent 10 minutes a day entering the data for 10 drivers, after 20 days you would have all 200 of your drivers in Hornresp :).

Each record in the driver database is stored as an individual text file in the Hornresp \ Drivers folder. This approach was taken because people were talking about setting up a common driver library from which Hornresp users could download files as they needed them. Unfortunately nothing came of it, though, so that each user is obliged to progressively build up a personal database from scratch.

An example of a driver file is attached.

Kind regards,

David
 

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Akabak can take the following info in order, and it has units as typed.

Code:
Def_Driver 'BC15SW115'  |B&C 15 in Qts 0.24, 13.5mm xmax, 96dB, 1700w, Oct 30, 2014
 Sd=855cm2 
 Bl=30.0Tm 
 Qms=4.4
 Qes=0.25
 Mms=200g
 fs=35Hz 
 Vas=112.3L
 Le=1.8mH 
 Re=5.0ohm

Hi xrk971,

Another question :).

If Sd, Fs, Vas, Qes and Qms are specified in the driver parameters list, why is it necessary to also include values for Bl and Mms?

Kind regards,

David
 
Hornresp Update 3910-150524

Hi Everyone,

CHANGE

Pressing Ctrl+C when the power or pressure response chart is displayed in either the Filter Wizard, Loudspeaker Wizard or Multiple Entry Horn Loudspeaker Wizard, captures the current results. Pressing Ctrl+V shows or hides previously captured results. Not applicable when room gain is included. The captured trace is shown in light green.

The feature was requested for the Filter Wizard by Dave in Post #5435. The functionality has also been added to the Loudspeaker Wizard and the Multiple Entry Horn Loudspeaker Wizard.

Kind regards,

David
 

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Hi xrk971,

Another question :).

If Sd, Fs, Vas, Qes and Qms are specified in the driver parameters list, why is it necessary to also include values for Bl and Mms?

Kind regards,

David

Some are redundant but are good to know for reference. I type them in or copy and paste them from a manufacture's website listing so often left as is.
 
Hornresp Update 3920-150530

Hi Everyone,

CHANGE

When selected from Sd, the Calculate Parameter tool displays the driver Thiele-Small parameters Sd, Re, fs, Vas, Qes, Qms and Qts, and the electro-mechanical parameters Le, Pmax and Xmax. The values of all listed parameters except for Qts can be edited.

Definitions of Thiele-Small parameters fs, Vas, Qes, Qms and Qts have been included in the Driver Parameters section of the Help file.

Kind regards,

David
 

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