Smarmy
Always entertained.The bad news is brick and mortar locations are closing down fast for audio salons with high quality brands.
Good news is the entertaining flip flops the salesmen perform regarding the in store products they used to vend against, and now sell.
Naim and Linn in the same locale...
Tap toes or not....
Tubes are crap, oh wait, we sell Macintosh now.
Bryston is s#%t! Bryston is fantastic.
Planars are wishy washy. Maggies are the bomb!
Lossy is terrible. Buy our sonos.
Networked is just wrong. Transparent is better than just wire.
Geometry doesn't make a difference. Cardas rocks.
We dumped Tannoy because English speakers are boring.
Buy our Bowers and Wilkins.
No one needs a sub.Buy our Rel!
Amazed these fellows don't get whiplash from all the about faces.
Always entertained.The bad news is brick and mortar locations are closing down fast for audio salons with high quality brands.
Good news is the entertaining flip flops the salesmen perform regarding the in store products they used to vend against, and now sell.
Naim and Linn in the same locale...
Tap toes or not....
Tubes are crap, oh wait, we sell Macintosh now.
Bryston is s#%t! Bryston is fantastic.
Planars are wishy washy. Maggies are the bomb!
Lossy is terrible. Buy our sonos.
Networked is just wrong. Transparent is better than just wire.
Geometry doesn't make a difference. Cardas rocks.
We dumped Tannoy because English speakers are boring.
Buy our Bowers and Wilkins.
No one needs a sub.Buy our Rel!
Amazed these fellows don't get whiplash from all the about faces.
Ethernet Diamond
True snake oil...directional Ethernet cables...
Give me a break...
Thanks for to JCB thread for this rather depressing link...
True snake oil...directional Ethernet cables...
Give me a break...
Thanks for to JCB thread for this rather depressing link...
even if it does, skin effect in audio is not significantHi,
Could it be that whatever chemical product was used to dye the sheathing somehow corrodes the top layer of the wire?
Ciao,
My thinking is that a lot of the subtle sound variations are due to flaws in materials effects, even skin effect is a beautifully theoretical behaviour based on 'perfect' materials, with perfect geometries. In the real world all the various, slightly not perfect ingredients used for manufacturing the bits in an audio system are able to cause little variations in the region around 60 - 80dB down from the intended signal, and these are just enough to tickle the hearing system into making one aware of "something being there" - hence opening the floodgates for the snake oil products ...
Here it is again, the suggestion that audio travels down a digital link in 'analog format'.
Wonder whether they really don't have a clue or are deliberately misleading us? Votes?
'it slows down parts of the signal differently, a big problem for very time-sensitive multi-octave audio'.
Some real world examples rather than just rhetoric. I mean there must be some info out there, in PCB land the roughness of the copper and its effect on very high speed signals (digital and RF) is know, measured and simulated, as are the effects of the various types of glass weave (and thus changing ER under the signal). So mundane things that are going to have an effect at audio frequencies should be covered somewhere.
Of course when we get into the realms of PCB resist colour and cable colours affecting sound we really are dancing with the fairies at the bottom of the garden.
As we are with directional Ethernet cables, and the fact that they determine the direction by listening tests, BS of the highest order.....
Of course when we get into the realms of PCB resist colour and cable colours affecting sound we really are dancing with the fairies at the bottom of the garden.
As we are with directional Ethernet cables, and the fact that they determine the direction by listening tests, BS of the highest order.....
We still have to deal with that strange animal, the ear, which can be remarkably perceptive of some sound related behaviour - I'm thinking here of loudspeaker driver testing, which needs a specialist "rub and scrape" (wrong wording?) procedure to catch the bad'uns- a defective driver will pass normal distortion tests with flying colours, yet a person listening will instantly reject it ...
Why not both.
(Truly amusing, that link. 1st example I'm aware of, that is equally revealing about the buyer)
Elementary circuit theory says 'no', your thinking is wrong. Experiments performed on this very forum have shown that mud makes a reasonable conductor for an audio interconnect. It is astonishingly unlikely that any comon electrical metal has conduction problems which rival mud.fas42 said:
No it is not. Analytical calculation of skin effect for a particular boundary is significantly eased by assuming ideal materials with perfect geometry, but the effect is still there and still works fine for messy boundaries and messy materials - its just that it is difficult to calculate analytically so full wave EM simulators have to be used instead.
WRONG, but then you seem to be a lot anyway.
You keep saying that the ear is more sensitive than a calibrated mic and measuring system, WRONG.If the speaker is defective then the mic/system is very easily going to show not only what frequencies are involved but the amount of distortion produced and what type.
Lets see your ear do that Frank.
I said I was going to ignore your comments from now on but when you state such an obvious false statement then someone has to step up and say when you are spewing BS.
I will now go back to ignoring your usual rambling nonsense.
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