I really like to have the plans. Do I donate first?
Sorry for my bad english...
Marcus
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I really like to have the plans. Do I donate first?
Yes Marcus,
eMail me a copy of the receipt for a donation of $10 or more to diyAudio and i will send you the URL for the plans. (my email on any of the websites below)
dave
Hi All,
I am seriously considering building the Frugalhorns XL but I was wondering if I could get a few bits of info. What low freq. extension could I get with Alpair 10p drivers and what are the dynamics like? How do they fair regarding max spl?
This project does sound very promising.
As a point of reference I currently have Tannoy Ardens with 15" dual concentric drivers in BR boxes (175l). I know that the frugal horns would be quiet different but I would like to maintain the dynamics and low freq. extension while improving clarity and neutralness.
CHeers,
R.
I am seriously considering building the Frugalhorns XL but I was wondering if I could get a few bits of info. What low freq. extension could I get with Alpair 10p drivers and what are the dynamics like? How do they fair regarding max spl?
This project does sound very promising.
As a point of reference I currently have Tannoy Ardens with 15" dual concentric drivers in BR boxes (175l). I know that the frugal horns would be quiet different but I would like to maintain the dynamics and low freq. extension while improving clarity and neutralness.
CHeers,
R.
Hello
Imho that wont work if you exchange a coax driver for a full range driver. The high frequencys get (a little) "muddled" when playing complex music with all full rangers i have listend to so far.
For more clarity i would look at the placement of your speakers in the room (sre they to close to reflecting boundries, symetrical triangle etc) and maybe improve the crossover.
Regards
... I know that the frugal horns would be quiet different but I would like to maintain the dynamics and low freq. extension while improving clarity and neutralness.
Imho that wont work if you exchange a coax driver for a full range driver. The high frequencys get (a little) "muddled" when playing complex music with all full rangers i have listend to so far.
For more clarity i would look at the placement of your speakers in the room (sre they to close to reflecting boundries, symetrical triangle etc) and maybe improve the crossover.
Regards
Comparo of FHXL using TPA3116D2/SE-Tube/MOSFET class A
Folks might find this interesting.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/class-d/237086-tpa3116d2-amp-441.html#post4027184
Folks might find this interesting.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/class-d/237086-tpa3116d2-amp-441.html#post4027184
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What low freq. extension could I get with Alpair 10p drivers
Scott can say what the horn is tuned too... they do go low enuff with sufficient impact that we startled Mark Fenlon when he heard them.
dave
I heard the Mark Audio A10 in this enclosure on the weekend. We listened to a variety of music ranging from Girl and guitar to full synthesized stuff. Some orchestra music some organ music etc. I thought the speakers performed great. I did not think there was any congestion or strain muffle or farting at all. I think they sounded open and at ease with everything that was played.
A most important point is that the amp feeding them must be up to the task to produced a dynamic range of music.
I hope this helps
A most important point is that the amp feeding them must be up to the task to produced a dynamic range of music.
I hope this helps
Scott can say what the horn is tuned too... they do go low enuff with sufficient impact that we startled Mark Fenlon when he heard them.
It's tuned to a nominal 50Hz anechoic, intended for useful output down to the high 30Hz regions under practical in-room conditions (which is generally achieved).
Thanks SCD. I have a Linn 2250 amp and I think it should be up to task.
I think I am ready to take this project on. Is the design ready for prime time and how can I get the plans?
e-mail Dave directly at Planet10 for instructions.
... and how can I get the plans?
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/246248-frugel-horn-xl-alpair-10-3-10p-25.html#post4017889
dave
When it comes to the alpair 10p driver, is there only one version? I ask because I have heard that the other metal alpair driver went through a few revisions
Metal A10 is now on it's third revision, hence the 10.3 designation. A10p is the paper cone version. Take a look: The Madisound Speaker Store
jeff
Mark's only paper cone driver in this size
The only Alpair series paper cone driver in this size
dave
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