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DAC-END R (ES9018) full assembled board

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glt

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sipo75 said:
My "build" - unbalanced direct out. I am planninng on replacing the toroid with an r-core transformer. The DAC seems to be very sensitive to power line influences. When I switch the bathroom lights the DAC looses the lock for a second. USB only so far.

The sound is an improvement compared to the Musical Fidelity V-DAC II which I was listening with for a year now. A very noticeable improvement in bass.
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I have never lost lock due to switching lights.
I do have a power conditioner (one of those Monster Cable types) and all the wiring in the house is 3-wire with earth.

I see you have an EMI filter, so the lines are already decoupled to ground.
 
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randytsuch

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sipo75 said:
My "build" - unbalanced direct out. I am planninng on replacing the toroid with an r-core transformer. The DAC seems to be very sensitive to power line influences. When I switch the bathroom lights the DAC looses the lock for a second. USB only so far.
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I never lose lock, usb only (knock on wood). House is relatively new as houses go, around 40 years old, so I think my power lines inside are reasonable.

I am using two 6.3v split bobbin transformers (I had them around), and each one is connected to a "felix", which consists of a set of x caps, a common mode choke and another set of x caps. I plug this into another power conditioner, so my power should be pretty clean.

I'm pretty sure you torroid is big enough ;)
How many VA is that thing?

BTW, what are you using for an output stage?
Did you change your output to single ended?

I installed a pair of LL1684's a few days ago, they sound pretty nice, pretty sure they are going to stay.

Randy
 
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yildiray said:
Hi quanghao,

I received DAC thank you.There isn't any cosmetic problem .

But i couldn't see opamps and any Input and output connectors ??

Amanero unassembled.

I paid extra 180$ for them am i wrong?

Thank you
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Hi quanghao said to me extra 180 $ is not include opamps,connectors,assambling .He said 180 dolar just for fedex :

"Hi,
You have to register to buy the following items:
- Kit DAC: 01
- Kit IV: 01
- Chassis: 01
- Tranformer: 01
- USB: 01
Total amount of goods: 750USD
Shipping by Fedex: $180

You have to pay me respectively:
- Paid 1: 375 usd (on 03/15/2013)
- Paid 2: 375 usd (on 05/06/2013)
- Paid 3: 150 usd (on 06/17/2013)
- Paid 4: 30usd (on 06/20/2013)

I think maybe we have a complete misunderstanding of the DAC."

So other buyers must be careful about this issue.
 
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sipo75

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randytsuch said:
I never lose lock, usb only (knock on wood). House is relatively new as houses go, around 40 years old, so I think my power lines inside are reasonable.

I am using two 6.3v split bobbin transformers (I had them around), and each one is connected to a "felix", which consists of a set of x caps, a common mode choke and another set of x caps. I plug this into another power conditioner, so my power should be pretty clean.

I'm pretty sure you torroid is big enough ;)
How many VA is that thing?

BTW, what are you using for an output stage?
Did you change your output to single ended?

I installed a pair of LL1684's a few days ago, they sound pretty nice, pretty sure they are going to stay.

Randy
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The toroid is specified with 50VA - 2x6.0V/4.17A.

Yes, I am using the single ended output configuration now. Set output to unbalanced with the remote and removed the jumpers J5,J8,J7,J6. Shorted the DAC+ and DAC-. No tear down resistor (10R) yet - I will try that today.

I plan to build the Sen V18 as I/V stage. The FETs are on their way.

Felix? What are x caps?
 
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sipo75

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SEN IV V18

danny_66 said:
x caps are capacitors that are used to put between the live and neutral of the mains AC, in case of failure they don't short.

Where can I find some more information about the Sen V18 as I/V stage?

Regards,
Danny
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Thanks.

The above mentioned thread is the place to look. V18 refers to the version of the SEN designed for the ES9018.

The original article from Linear Audio http://www.linearaudio.net/images/onlinearticlesPDF/didden-la -vol2euvl.pdf

Attached the schematics of the V18 version that I have found.

The group buy thread
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/group-buys/196585-sen-cen-all-jfet-iv-converter-evaluation-pack.html
 

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sipo75

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Domi_78 said:
- You can only remove the jumper "3.3USB" on the board. The Amanero will not be powered longer when the DAC is turned on.
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My question was perhaps misleading.

I want to move the Amanero module away from the DAC. So I will have to wire the connection instead of using the plug. Now I am wondering which pins will have to be wired between the DAC and the Amanero. I do power the Amanero from the DAC supply so GND and 3.3V are known.
 
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Halook said:
Hi randytsuch,

Were you using USB only?
Mine also OK 44.1kHz, 96kHz, 192kHz and DSD with JRiver on Win7 via USB but no luck via coaxial anything above 48kHz.
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Ever get this working?

I am asking because I just added optical input to my DACEND, and it works at 96kHz for me, I haven't tried anything higher yet, but 96 sounds good.

Source is still a macbook running jriver for mac.

Randy
 
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Domi_78

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randytsuch said:
I am asking because I just added optical input to my DACEND, and it works at 96kHz for me, I haven't tried anything higher yet, but 96 sounds good.Randy
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Source : CD transport, Inputs : Coax. or Opt. or AES/EBU.
44.1 : OK

Source : SqueezeBox Touch, Inputs : Coax. or Opt. or AES/EBU.
44.1 : OK
48.0 : KO :mad:
88.2 : KO :mad:
96.0 : KO :mad:
192.0 : KO :mad:

Source : Aston Wamba tuner, Inputs : Coax. or AES/EBU.
48.0 : KO :mad:

Source USB : Not yet try but it seems that there is a problem because this input is very noisy without signal. :mad:

Volume control : impossible to shut down completely, at 1% level remains at demonstration stage. :mad:

No muting on I/V outputs when turning On/Off : Could be dangerous for loudspeakers... :mad:

I am quite disapointed by this "Reference DAC"... :eek:
 
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Domi_78 said:
Source : CD transport, Inputs : Coax. or Opt. or AES/EBU.
44.1 : OK

Source : SqueezeBox Touch, Inputs : Coax. or Opt. or AES/EBU.
44.1 : OK
48.0 : KO :mad:
88.2 : KO :mad:
96.0 : KO :mad:
192.0 : KO :mad:

Source : Aston Wamba tuner, Inputs : Coax. or AES/EBU.
48.0 : KO :mad:

Source USB : Not yet try but it seems that there is a problem because this input is very noisy without signal. :mad:

Volume control : impossible to shut down completely, at 1% level remains at demonstration stage. :mad:


I am quite disapointed by this "Reference DAC"... :eek:
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Are you sure that SqueezeBox Touch have a spdif working at 96 and 192KHz ?

Are you sure to enable spdif at 48KHz on Aston Wamba tuner ?

Try USB input
 
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