What if you didn't cut the chamfers at all? If you're using the speaker as a center on its side with a shelf below and a tv above there's gonna be reflections anyway. I guess the port lengths would be slightly longer but what other problems would this cause?
Well our thinking on this particular design was to keep the baffle width as narrow as possible - for both aesthetic and acoustic reasons - and that bevels are a lot easier to machine than very large radius round-overs.
Yes they could be eliminated, and in fact my own HT system's center channel ( Alpair 7) is wide / short with a slot port at each end - the tuning logic is similar to the "Prime" series, but the enclosure construction is much simpler - somewhat similar to .
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What if you didn't cut the chamfers at all? If you're using the speaker as a center on its side with a shelf below and a tv above there's gonna be reflections anyway. I guess the port lengths would be slightly longer but what other problems would this cause?
No chempher or a roundover require some adjustment of the inside end of the vent to compensate for the otherwise increased vent length.
dave
You might do a search for lockmiter bit, but you need a router and a table.....
Do the search, to see what I mean .....
How will a lock mitre aid in cutting of exposed bevel / chamfer?
baffle bevel
Hi there jb: Check out "Loudspeaker Design Cookbook" 7th ed, by Vance Dickason, page 106 &b107, and table 2.2 (FR), where baffle edge difraction is discussed. If you used a sphere, the variation is presented as 1.08db, 4-inch bevel 1.13, for rectangle corners 3.03.
....regards, Michael
What if you didn't cut the chamfers at all? ......
If you're using the speaker as a center on its side with a shelf below and a tv above there's gonna be reflections anyway. I guess the port lengths would be slightly longer but what other problems would this cause?
Hi there jb: Check out "Loudspeaker Design Cookbook" 7th ed, by Vance Dickason, page 106 &b107, and table 2.2 (FR), where baffle edge difraction is discussed. If you used a sphere, the variation is presented as 1.08db, 4-inch bevel 1.13, for rectangle corners 3.03.
....regards, Michael
How will a lock mitre aid in cutting of exposed bevel / chamfer?
Sorry, mate - didn't read properly...
in my head I saw 45 deg box mitering - not the Onken front bevels....
The 10" blade reaches okay, that's still a lot of material to rip/cut. The last cut is the most nerve racking, but it's not that bad. I wouldn't try it in on pass, one small bump and there a huge mark or burning.
There are always table saws on ebay, some starting as low as $50. The saws with a motor mounted below or on the back are good, i.e. you may want to ramp it up with a bigger motor someday.
I always liked the "contractor grade" saws, good prices, hefty motor and way less $$ than cabinet shop grade.
POWERMATIC - 64A 10 Table Saw, 1.5HP 1PH, w/ 30 Accu-Fence System
There are always table saws on ebay, some starting as low as $50. The saws with a motor mounted below or on the back are good, i.e. you may want to ramp it up with a bigger motor someday.
I always liked the "contractor grade" saws, good prices, hefty motor and way less $$ than cabinet shop grade.
POWERMATIC - 64A 10 Table Saw, 1.5HP 1PH, w/ 30 Accu-Fence System
table saws
Contractor style saws are greatly enhanced by link type belts, as are all v belt driven tools. Vibration damping, as in speaker boxes, is also worth the trouble. Please use the appropriate blade for the application; rip for ripping, crosscut for crosscutting, and keep them SHARP.
Contractor style saws are greatly enhanced by link type belts, as are all v belt driven tools. Vibration damping, as in speaker boxes, is also worth the trouble. Please use the appropriate blade for the application; rip for ripping, crosscut for crosscutting, and keep them SHARP.
One thought comes to mind, and obvious to some; a "ground table" is better than the stamped steel; but that would be extra cash. The issue with stamped steel tables, is the materail can dip into the "pockets". If you are only working on small projects, not a problem.
The best thing you can do for a table saw, is build an out-feed-table, this can be all day job (or more) but well worth it.
The best thing you can do for a table saw, is build an out-feed-table, this can be all day job (or more) but well worth it.
Dewalt has jumped in the saw guide market:
Dewalt DC351LKL Heavy-Duty 6-1/2 (165mm) 28V Cordless TrackSaw Kit with 102" Track - Toolfetch.com
Can always make one up using some straight plywood, 1/4" for the "base" and 1/2" for the guide rail.
Dewalt DC351LKL Heavy-Duty 6-1/2 (165mm) 28V Cordless TrackSaw Kit with 102" Track - Toolfetch.com
Can always make one up using some straight plywood, 1/4" for the "base" and 1/2" for the guide rail.
Contractor style saws are greatly enhanced by link type belts, as are all v belt driven tools. Vibration damping, as in speaker boxes, is also worth the trouble. Please use the appropriate blade for the application; rip for ripping, crosscut for crosscutting, and keep them SHARP.
Very good point, I've seen people work with blunt saws and blame just about everything but the blade, just run a circular saw through a gritty plank and it's pretty well blunt.
I've been buying these for a while now, they go on sale all the time.
I clean the graphic (ink) before using, as I do with all my blades, they stay cleaner, longer and less drag.
10", 50 Tooth Alternate Top Bevel Design Novelty Combo Blade
I clean the graphic (ink) before using, as I do with all my blades, they stay cleaner, longer and less drag.
10", 50 Tooth Alternate Top Bevel Design Novelty Combo Blade
I've been buying these for a while now, they go on sale all the time.
I clean the graphic (ink) before using, as I do with all my blades, they stay cleaner, longer and less drag.
10", 50 Tooth Alternate Top Bevel Design Novelty Combo Blade
at those prices, hardly worth getting professionally resharpend
I've been buying these for a while now, they go on sale all the time.
I clean the graphic (ink) before using, as I do with all my blades, they stay cleaner, longer and less drag.
10", 50 Tooth Alternate Top Bevel Design Novelty Combo Blade
Have you tried PTFE spray? I find it makes quite a difference, it helps on fences and tables also but is pricey, wax is good too.
sawblades
I don't care for the combo format with the deep gullet every 5th tooth. They tend to throw wood in my face since I cut everything at least twice. And a good saw shop will get your blade sharper than new, and maintain tension if they're diligent. Not every shop will do though; some are carbide blasters.
I don't care for the combo format with the deep gullet every 5th tooth. They tend to throw wood in my face since I cut everything at least twice. And a good saw shop will get your blade sharper than new, and maintain tension if they're diligent. Not every shop will do though; some are carbide blasters.
If your talking saw blades, and they are important to getting god results on difficult cuts, then these are worth a look
Forrest Saw Blades - Quality Since 1946
The woodworker 2 at 1/8" thick
Forrest Saw Blades - Woodworker 2 Saw Blades Information
the duraline hi AT
Forrest Duraline HI-A/T Saw Blade Information
both excellent choices
Evan
Forrest Saw Blades - Quality Since 1946
The woodworker 2 at 1/8" thick
Forrest Saw Blades - Woodworker 2 Saw Blades Information
the duraline hi AT
Forrest Duraline HI-A/T Saw Blade Information
both excellent choices
Evan
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