Caps - Mundorf Silver/oil vs silver/gold/oil

[ramallo]

Ramallo, the original Audio Note caps were PIO and had quality issues. The new ones use Mylar and apparently solve the reliability issue. Do you know which one you had? Did you like the sound?

V-Caps get glowing reviews, but are absolute crazy money.

I not sure, but probably the original ones.

I didn't a try with other capacitors on these amplifiers and I can't say nothing in comparison with others. But the ANQuest are one of my favs 300B amplifiers in sound terms (despite having a ridiculous filament supply).

I agree, the V-Caps have a crazy price.

 

[Frederik Carøe]

The Jensen specs are -20 to +30% variance, while the Mundorf is +/- 2%. Is the Jensen really a better cap?

Also, does any have any experience with the AudioNote copper foil/mylar caps, would you recommend them?

Remember, the Jensen is made of metal film, the Mundorf is made from plastic film with some metal "sprayed" on. This makes a huge difference in cost.

The reason for the difference in tolerance is that as the Jensen is a PIO design, it needs impregnation, which will affect the value a bit. You can always ask for matched values. Which will take care of the tolerance.

 

[M Gregg]

Hi,

IMO, the audio note "Jensen" caps can sound very "dark" and make the music seem to loose its sparkle. The copper "Older Audio Note" in oil seems smoother, however it can seem to take the life from the music. Not my favourite cap!
I find the Mundorf silver in oil easier to listen to.

Each to their own I guess!
I suppose the type of music played has an effect on choice also!


Regards
M. Gregg

 

[Frederik Carøe]

Hi,

IMO, the audio note "Jensen" caps can sound very "dark" and make the music seem to loose its sparkle. The copper "Older Audio Note" in oil seems smoother, however it can seem to take the life from the music. Not my favourite cap!
I find the Mundorf silver in oil easier to listen to.

Each to their own I guess!
I suppose the type of music played has an effect on choice also!


Regards
M. Gregg

Jensen hasn't made Audio Note UK caps for years?

 

[M Gregg]

Just for interest,

NOS Audio Note capacitors home page

NOS Jensen capacitors home page

That is why they are cheap! LOL
It's interesting a while ago that they were "so good". Some may like them I suppose!

They have sold out I guess! Should have checked before I posted Sorry!

Regards
M. Gregg

 

[Frederik Carøe]

As said, these are years old production - as it states in the litterature: From the days when Audio Note had their own brand of signal capacitors made by the Famous Jensen company of Denmark.

 

[M Gregg]

As said, these are years old production - as it states in the litterature: From the days when Audio Note had their own brand of signal capacitors made by the Famous Jensen company of Denmark.

Are you saying that the new caps are significantly better sonically?


Regards
M. Gregg

 

[Frederik Carøe]

The thing about Jensen, is that they're a relatively large industrial manufacturer. If you ask for a cap completely like those you link to, they'll make them for you. So those won't sound different. However, the standard Jensen 630v, is different today, than the old Audio Note UK types. If the sound is better - that's of course subjective as you state.

 

[M Gregg]

What are your thoughts,

Do you think the "New Audio Note" caps are sonically better than the "Old" Audio note caps?

 

[Frederik Carøe]

On a purely personal stand point - I prefer paper caps to polyester caps. Again, YMMW.

 

[M Gregg]

Agreed,

I am not a fan of mylar. That's why I asked! What is your prefered cap make?

I asked a question in a thread that had only one reply, you may have thoughts on this. Have you ever bypassed PSU caps with Jupiter paper / wax or mundorf silver /oil?

 

[Frederik Carøe]

Agreed,

I am not a fan of mylar. That's why I asked! What is your prefered cap make?

I asked a question in a thread that had only one reply, you may have thoughts on this. Have you ever bypassed PSU caps with Jupiter paper / wax or mundorf silver /oil?

I'm the manufacturer of Duelund Coherent Audio, so to answer this, would probably be advertisement...

 

[M Gregg]

I'm the manufacturer of Duelund Coherent Audio, so to answer this, would probably be advertisement...

LOL.

So you never use any others? I used the silk covered silver cable in the last project for input cable.

 

[Frederik Carøe]

I always use paper, so if not my own, typically Jensen. Old type Wicons can sound very good as well.

 

[Frederik Carøe]

LOL.

So you never use any others? I used the silk covered silver cable in the last project for input cable.

Good to hear. :=)

 

[M Gregg]

I always use paper, so if not my own, typically Jensen. Old type Wicon's can sound very good as well.

What are your thoughts on,

Paper caps for PSU bypass as opposed to polypropylene?

Sorry I seem to be quizzing you, I am just interested!

 

[Frederik Carøe]

Again, unless there's a specific reason, I always stay away from plastic dielectrica.

No worries, my 11 month old is sleeping now, so it's daddy's 2 hour off.

 

[M Gregg]

Again, unless there's a specific reason, I always stay away from plastic dielectrica.

OK,

So is this for static reasons or for damping and resonance

 

[Frederik Carøe]

Well, for the sound - but yes, those are supposedly both valid reasons.

 

[M Gregg]

There has been a lot of research recently on resonance. Duelund caps are on cutting edge of sonic performance. Are they also researching along these lines? (Do you think this is a major way forward?) For difference in cap sound.