Bybee Quantum Purifier Measurements and Double Blind Test

[bear]

It's not oil in a snake.
It's oil for your snake!

(since you asked)

 

[Pano]

Ohhh.... I get it! All this time I thought it was extracted from snakes, or perhaps oil that had snakes marinated in it.

But oil for you snake could be useful, if it's getting a little rusty.

 

[Absconditus]

Just how much oil is there in a snake, anyway?

Whether it is in a snake or for a snake, the is just enough to sell for a small fortune. It justs needs a snappy name, such as, By.......................

 

[Sk8Ter]

There is a sucker born every minute ...but more importantly why are people still talking about this rubbish! it was debunked a few years ago?

 

[nannoo]

I thought it was meant to be oil from the snake too.... oil for your trouser snake is just lube surely.

 

[djmiddelkoop]

To get back on topic......

There has been many discussions before on the QP subject, and to refresh our minds somebody took them apart. The main ingredient is a WW resistor, which by nature has a little inductance.

 

[MITsound]

Reply to#46- thanks Djmiddelkoop- that's awesome. Can that encasement stretch to fit around an oppo? Mine seem to do no harm, and seem to take the edge out of long term listening. (Placebo can work too).They'll stay in the crossover if only because it's easier to leave them in .

 

[john curl]

Keep your Bybee's MIT, wherever they work for you. You are not imagining sound differences.
I have Bybee's on my WATT's to tame the 'edge' of the original tweeters.

 

[Cal Weldon]

It's not oil in a snake.
It's oil for your snake!

Not for a snake. Snake Oil a mispronunciation of an Indian word.

I thought it was meant to be oil from the snake too....

This is the other accepted origin of the term. Extract of a water snake.

 

[john curl]

Note the ceramic still in the outer casing. That is where the action is, not the ceramic itself, but what is layered on the ceramic that actually conducts current too. I measured it, myself.

 

[sq225917]

There's some clutching at straws going on here. Albeit ceramic straws.

 

[john curl]

It is important to note that the material on the ceramic shell is what does anything interesting, the resistor just measures as a resistance, for the most part.

 

[SY]

It is important to note that the material on the ceramic shell is what does anything interesting, the resistor just measures as a resistance, for the most part.

So does the whole "device."

 

[zigzagflux]

I measured it, myself.

You measured what, the phlogiston ?

 

[john curl]

No, I just measured the DC resistance, but many people might assume that it is just a ceramic shell, which would have a very high resistance. I am not equipped to test the device in the GHz region, where the 'action' most probably is. I don't know for sure, but that is where I would look, if I had the test equipment.

 

[SY]

I am not equipped to test the device in the GHz region, where the 'action' most probably is. I don't know for sure, but that is where I would look, if I had the test equipment.

I am, I did, and there was nothing unusual. It's a resistor with a coating of fraud, but it does give you a mechanism to stir things up.

 

[john curl]

Really, how far out did you go?

 

[john curl]

An important point: SY tested a completely different product that is basically a special kind of resistor. The part being discussed is made of a separate quantum device (on the ceramic tube) and a resistor. They use a separate design path to apparently do the same thing. I would think that the ceramic tube type would measure something at GHz frequencies.

 

[SY]

Really, how far out did you go?

An important point: SY tested a completely different product that is basically a special kind of resistor.

20GHz. We have a nice R&S GVB20 in the lab. As you'd expect, a series L of a few nH, a series R of 30m-ohm, and a shunt cap of a pF or so, and not significantly different than the cheap resistor I sourced from Mouser or Digikey. Not that any of this is relevant to audio, but since that seemed to be the last straw you were grasping, I thought it would be entertaining to look. The component I tested is labeled as a Bybee Quantum Purifier with all the same claims attached to it, so your second statement would seem to indicate that you agree that it's a fraud.

 

[john curl]

I, unfortunately, cannot agree with almost anything that you have said about the subject's working mechanism.