Yes, I didn't think it through properly, of course summed in this way to two outputs I'm getting a total of twice what I had before Anyway re the mono v stereo and room modes, I can't locate them crossed at 100Hz, it sounds the same. More experimenting yet to do regards the smoothing of the in room response
Hi Scott,
....I can't locate them crossed at 100Hz, it sounds the same.
Sorry, You can't locate the position of the drivers with <100Hz signal because of the room modes (peaks/dips)?
I just found this thread - very interesting - I'm about to upgrade my unit with the new kDCX input/output boards, etc
....I can't locate them crossed at 100Hz, it sounds the same.
Sorry, You can't locate the position of the drivers with <100Hz signal because of the room modes (peaks/dips)?
I just found this thread - very interesting - I'm about to upgrade my unit with the new kDCX input/output boards, etc
Hi, no, sorry for the misunderstanding, it was in reference to this where global had previously replied: Stereo or Mono Subs Xover at ~100Hz
Yes, I didn't think it through properly, of course summed in this way to two outputs I'm getting a total of twice what I had before Anyway re the mono v stereo and room modes, I can't locate them crossed at 100Hz, it sounds the same. More experimenting yet to do regards the smoothing of the in room response
Even with source material that has different content on the channels in the bass region?
Well, hard panned double bass is still sounding coherent, so will stick with mono subs. Subjectively seems a little clearer too. It makes sense to use multiple mono subs in the modal region. Also Geddes says:
"A 100 Hz tone has a period of 10 ms.
It takes several periods of a sound for the ear to recognize “pitch”
Hence, at 100 Hz the ear has not detected and registered the tone until about 30 ms.
In a small room this wave will have traveled around the room and impinged itself on the listener about a dozen times, each arrival being from a different direction and at a different arrival time."
"A 100 Hz tone has a period of 10 ms.
It takes several periods of a sound for the ear to recognize “pitch”
Hence, at 100 Hz the ear has not detected and registered the tone until about 30 ms.
In a small room this wave will have traveled around the room and impinged itself on the listener about a dozen times, each arrival being from a different direction and at a different arrival time."
The usual arithmetic doesn't hold for sub crossovers. You've got to really cut the bass sharply out of the mid-range drivers (apropos cone motion) and similarly for the subs (apropos "reveal").Well, hard panned double bass is still sounding coherent, so will stick with mono subs.
I think in card games players have the term "reveal". The subs will reveal their location unless the slope is sharp and they subs produce no revealing harmonics or box noises.
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Subjectively seems a little clearer too.
I agree.
I'm crossing the subs and wideband (OB) at 100Hz with LR8. I was using LR4 but was getting a cavity resonance with the U-frame subs.
Maybe add some damping to the subs, if not already done.
DCX2496 Flash corrupt?
I am looking for some advice/help. I have a DCX2496 that I have used for many years to crossover my home built ESLs. During one of the PC to device configuration saves something must have corrupted the Flash. I was using a usb to rs-232 converter which I learned is suspect. The unit boots to the product splash screen and locks. Tried a factory rest of <page and >page while powering up to no avail. Can the factor prom be reflashed with the V1.17 image on the Behringer website? Is there anyone that can reflash this prom?
Many Thanks.
Kono
I am looking for some advice/help. I have a DCX2496 that I have used for many years to crossover my home built ESLs. During one of the PC to device configuration saves something must have corrupted the Flash. I was using a usb to rs-232 converter which I learned is suspect. The unit boots to the product splash screen and locks. Tried a factory rest of <page and >page while powering up to no avail. Can the factor prom be reflashed with the V1.17 image on the Behringer website? Is there anyone that can reflash this prom?
Many Thanks.
Kono
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I am looking for some advice/help. I have a DCX2496 that I have used for many years to crossover my home built ESLs. During one of the PC to device configuration saves something must have corrupted the Flash. I was using a usb to rs-232 converter which I learned is suspect. The unit boots to the product splash screen and locks. Tried a factory rest of <page and >page while powering up to no avail. Can the factor prom be reflashed with the V1.17 image on the Behringer website? Is there anyone that can reflash this prom?
I'm that guy...have a few left...let me know if you have any questions...
How about this!
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I will PM you about the unit.
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