If you use paypal the conversion is done automagically if you pay in € and have a $US or any other account. Not the best rate, but I don't know how to do otherwise, and at that amount the differences should be small anyway.
I need to pay my bills in € so that's my calculation.
I don't know yet the shipping charges but I expect about 6 to 7 euri flat, tracked.
Jan
I have been tryingh to update both this thread as well as my personal website at https://linearaudio.nl/la-autoranger but it's just double work with scope for differences.
So I decided to keep the website updated, and will flag here if there is an update. So we all sing from the same sheet, so to say.
I just updated https://linearaudio.nl/la-autoranger to give some more detail on the additional through-hole parts you neeed to source and solder to complete the unit. Next will be a Mouser BoM for them.
Jan
So I decided to keep the website updated, and will flag here if there is an update. So we all sing from the same sheet, so to say.
I just updated https://linearaudio.nl/la-autoranger to give some more detail on the additional through-hole parts you neeed to source and solder to complete the unit. Next will be a Mouser BoM for them.
Jan
Guys, apologies, but I made a mistake: it was pointed out to me that the Belgian government will take 21% VAT from all sales in Europe. Assuming half of the people who want one will be in Europe and half outside, I split the difference and had to add 10%. New final is € 209. Sorry for not taking that in account at the beginning.....
Jan
Jan
Over here, VAT is collected from the recipient upon receipt. Is this not the case in the EU? So people outside the EU may be paying double VAT?
It seems reasonable for recipients to be responsible for VAT depending on their own location.
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Seems to me that if you can manage a separate line item for shipping cost you can also manage a separate line item for VAT.
Come to dive a little deeper, when it comes time to do the actual tax accounting, no doubt, you will have a separate row on the spreadsheet for the units sold in the EU and only pay VAT on those units.
Actually, if you had not mentioned your calculations in detail, probably we would not mind the slight increase in price, more of a perception issue. Depending on where you have them manufactured, VAT can be complicated. For example, I pay my suppliers VAT, the I collect VAT from sales. These would sum up to be different and need to be taken into consideration in detail if you do not have some profit margin. We don't want you to lose money on good work.
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You know, I am not a trader or businessman. Of course I need to pay VAT to the people that make the PCB and put on the parts. But I assume that it is cancelled by the VAT I collect and have to turn over to the government so I don't lose on that. In my calculations I assume that is how it will be, but somehow I always end up with less than I thought 
My proposal is to forget about all this and we just use the € 209 for all orders and I keep my fingers crossed and pay the government whatever comes out of the mix?
Jan
My proposal is to forget about all this and we just use the € 209 for all orders and I keep my fingers crossed and pay the government whatever comes out of the mix?
Jan
Jan,
I know you do this for love.
But there is no reason that you have all this work, and still risk losing money in the end.
Especially if it has to come from your pension.
People don't know how much donkey work there is to make such a thing available to hobbyists.
If anything, they should be grateful that they can buy one in the first place.
I thought you would have put it on Kickstarter, like the SilentSwitcher.
Save you some work ....
Cheers,
Patrick
I know you do this for love.
But there is no reason that you have all this work, and still risk losing money in the end.
Especially if it has to come from your pension.
People don't know how much donkey work there is to make such a thing available to hobbyists.
If anything, they should be grateful that they can buy one in the first place.
I thought you would have put it on Kickstarter, like the SilentSwitcher.
Save you some work ....
Cheers,
Patrick
Jan, you could also consider advocating https://transferwise.com for payments instead of PayPal. Should also save you several % as their fees are much lower and money comes to your bank account direct.
Ergo
PS. Transferwise is an Estonia originated company so there is a bit bias there from my part, but they are less costly
Ergo
PS. Transferwise is an Estonia originated company so there is a bit bias there from my part, but they are less costly