not together ;
I did listened to SFR144 , SFR200-8 , SWR200-8A in various circumstances - in horn loading , and bare drivers ;
Which one would you consider best suited for use in OB paired with 1 Alpha-15? I will add maybe a second Alpha-15 later on..
also - I listened to MJK- style OB , with 2 Apha15 per side , paired with two ancient oval Iskra's per side .... pure joy
That sounds very promising
To bad those Iskra's are so hard to find where I live :-/
...... good Lad
Thanks..
I hope you are little more informed now
Very much so Thanks alot for the fast reply's. I'll go ahead and order some spks today.
Which one would you consider best suited for use in OB paired with 1 Alpha-15? I will add maybe a second Alpha-15 later on..
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see enclosed pic - that's for SWR200-8A ( Bass reflex/Onken use , AlNiCo - my fave ) paired with 2 Alpha's . for my ears - that driver have best mid and top end of Sonidos ..... even if just slight differences are in question .
sim is with "standard" MJK 12/12db/oct xover , two Alpha's . two per side is a must ...... but you already know that they're dirt cheap for results ......
even if they are scarce in Serbia , when you can grab 'em for 55E/pc ....... that's bargain .
edit: any of these Sonido's are bargain , too ; they'll never be in last 5% of Lowther stellar hights , but important difference is that you can listen the music from 1 hour of their electric life , not like with Lowthers ...... pain and trouble in first 500Hrs , pain and trouble in making custom plugs ...... and price is in range of 300E/pair , delivered too your doors .
important - Mighty ZM is just a happy customer , nothing else ..... I'm boring even to my self with all that Sonido praise .....
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To bad those Iskra's are so hard to find where I live :-/
they are hard to find even there
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Hi OB fans
What about Dayton audio IB385-8 15" Infinite Baffle Subwoofer
Power handling: 350 watts RMS/600 watts max
VCdia: 2"
Le: 3.08 mH
Znom: 8 ohm
Re: 5.2 ohms
Frequency range: 20-500 Hz
Magnet weight: 90 oz.
Fs: 20.8 Hz
SPL: 88.2 dB 1W/1m, 90.0 dB 2.83V/1m
Vas: 11.11 cu. ft.
Qms: 12.08
Qes: .69
Qts: .65
Xmax: 14.3 mm
Dimensions:
Overall Diameter: 15-1/8"
Cutout Diameter: 13-7/8"
Mounting Depth: 7-3/8"
Magnet Diameter: 6-1/2"
This driver might be a solution on lower octave mounted instead of second 15" and filtered/powered active.
Truly, I am not experienced with building and tunning OB, but this dayton seems almost perfect to get some tones below 50 hz.
Jernej
What about Dayton audio IB385-8 15" Infinite Baffle Subwoofer
Power handling: 350 watts RMS/600 watts max
VCdia: 2"
Le: 3.08 mH
Znom: 8 ohm
Re: 5.2 ohms
Frequency range: 20-500 Hz
Magnet weight: 90 oz.
Fs: 20.8 Hz
SPL: 88.2 dB 1W/1m, 90.0 dB 2.83V/1m
Vas: 11.11 cu. ft.
Qms: 12.08
Qes: .69
Qts: .65
Xmax: 14.3 mm
Dimensions:
Overall Diameter: 15-1/8"
Cutout Diameter: 13-7/8"
Mounting Depth: 7-3/8"
Magnet Diameter: 6-1/2"
This driver might be a solution on lower octave mounted instead of second 15" and filtered/powered active.
Truly, I am not experienced with building and tunning OB, but this dayton seems almost perfect to get some tones below 50 hz.
Jernej
see enclosed pic - that's for SWR200-8A ( Bass reflex/Onken use , AlNiCo - my fave ) paired with 2 Alpha's . for my ears - that driver have best mid and top end of Sonidos .....
I could not find a model called SWR-200. Did you mean SFR-200 ?
I'll forgiv' ya .......
.....considering that you're Papa with small kids
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/141330-new-sonido-swr200a-8-a.html
even if they don't have them online , all their drivers can be purchased either with ceramic or AlNiCo .
I could not find a model called SWR-200. Did you mean SFR-200 ?
.....considering that you're Papa with small kids
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/141330-new-sonido-swr200a-8-a.html
even if they don't have them online , all their drivers can be purchased either with ceramic or AlNiCo .
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Hi Yunick!
Nice work!
I'm sure that the Zen Mod's proposal with two Alphas and a Sonido will be a hit. In the last years, we have come to the close agreement as to what works (and what does not work) in open baffles. I am still running a single Eminence Beta 15 paired with Visaton B200. I am still puzzled that you managed to get Beta 15 to work with only 1st order crossover ( I could not). At present, (still experimenting) I am crossing the Betas at 120 Hz 12 db/oct (Linkwitz-Riley), biamped and aided by Graham's T-bass circuit. Visaton is cut at approx. 300 hz 12 db/oct (Linkwitz-Riley).
I guess that with Alphas it will be much easier...
Also, for relatively narrow OB's, I have found that they sound better without side wings...
Nice work!
I'm sure that the Zen Mod's proposal with two Alphas and a Sonido will be a hit. In the last years, we have come to the close agreement as to what works (and what does not work) in open baffles. I am still running a single Eminence Beta 15 paired with Visaton B200. I am still puzzled that you managed to get Beta 15 to work with only 1st order crossover ( I could not). At present, (still experimenting) I am crossing the Betas at 120 Hz 12 db/oct (Linkwitz-Riley), biamped and aided by Graham's T-bass circuit. Visaton is cut at approx. 300 hz 12 db/oct (Linkwitz-Riley).
I guess that with Alphas it will be much easier...
Also, for relatively narrow OB's, I have found that they sound better without side wings...
I like the Dual Alpha's myself, with Grahams circuit goes pretty strong till 40hz or so. Seems 'fast' and 'dynamic'
ZM, Did you get Sonidos to make to OB spec's?
I e-chatted with Zoltan, and says that can be made to spec for this.
I am thinking of course a Goldwood 18" with a Sonidos 145-A on a panel...
ZM, Did you get Sonidos to make to OB spec's?
I e-chatted with Zoltan, and says that can be made to spec for this.
I am thinking of course a Goldwood 18" with a Sonidos 145-A on a panel...
I like the Dual Alpha's myself, with Grahams circuit goes pretty strong till 40hz or so. Seems 'fast' and 'dynamic'
ZM, Did you get Sonidos to make to OB spec's?
I e-chatted with Zoltan, and says that can be made to spec for this.
I am thinking of course a Goldwood 18" with a Sonidos 145-A on a panel...
look here : OB za Davora - DIYAudio.rs
even in Serbian , pictures are selfblahblahexplanatory
Alpha 15 is dirt cheap nagnagnag....
for translate use google translate ......... or learn Serbian , so entire world can understand you ......
for translate use google translate ......... or learn Serbian , so entire world can understand you ......
Здраво ЗМ - који желе да разумеју шта ја мислим? Понекад оно што ја мислим - и то је прилично глупо.
Hey - I did that via Google translate - so if it is messed up and has a buncha cuss words - or makes no sense at all................. well it most likely that GT messed it up. OTOH - maybe I don't make any sense in da 1st place!!!
More pic's..
Great looking speaker! I've seen them IRL, great sounding as well...
PS, Mathias is a friend of mine
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