The Blomley Class B amplifier

Finding the best parts of the idea.

Very interesting amplifier. But I think it helps to redraw the schematic for understanding (attached). So far, it seems to me that this moves the switching action to the driver (or pre-driver) stage as others have done. In this case, the 10KHz THD is not that impressive. I think the same thing can be achieved with better, more modern topology, and better results. For example, consider a "blameless" circuit where the drivers switch but the OPs do not.
 

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square wave source

I have simulated this circuit on 10kHz square wave adapting Ian Hegglun's .asc file. The attached images and .asc file refer.

The problem was the value of R6 limiting the current flowing between the output and Q3 emitter. I reduced the value from 22k to 12k.

This had no significant effect to the output voltage however the output transistor standing current did increase to 136 m.A. putting this in the Class AB league.

I used 1N914 diodes for biasing since germanium transistors like OA47 are hard to find.

I picked up a trick from Ian that makes a better square wave source, ie no DC offset.
 

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Never argue "noise" until you know if the writer means hiss, hum, buzz, scratches, or Martian Music-Radio.

Balancing may work great at reducing waves from Mars. :darkside:

Isn't that exactly what Jan is saying in his post?

"What is does largely cancel is RF and other external noise radiated or induced into the lines, provided that both lines have the same source- and receiver impedance. That is the requirement for balanced line noise reduction: that both lines have the same impedance to ground"

And Jan is absulutally right.
 
When Blomley says "to minimum" on diode side, does he mean to 0 ohm or to 500 ohm (on the diode side)? I built one but my idle current is fixed at 87.3mA no matter what I turn. I made a mistake somewhere. Building another now. I'm going to set them to what's in the spice settings before I solder them on this one. Also, just to be clear, quiescent current is measured between the collectors of Q14 and Q15 (Blomley's TR11 and TR12), right?

To minimum would mean the sweeping connection (centre pin of the trimpot) to the diode. Which gives you 500 ohms across the trimmer and minimum current.

Quiescent current is through the output transistors, and is measured across either of the 0.5 ohm resistors. The current going through the drivers via these resistors is considered to be negligible.
 
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I dunno; if you have a hum problem on your signal, how could balanced help to get rid of it? I don't see it. Inverting the signal to make the other polarity wouldn't work because it also inverts the hum on the signal.

For the electronics, the hum is just another signal component and there's no way except sharp filtering to get rid of it. In such cases, I would suggest to clean up the amp to get rid of the hum in the first place.

Jan
 
I finally got this working. I need more. I was just doing a quick test and got lost in the music and didn't have a heat sink. First it was Elliot Smith then Lil Wayne then Radiohead and I went away for 45 seconds to get my DAC and it was dead. Can anyone suggest what I probably fried? I will go find a big chunk of aluminum tomorrow I promise. I need to hear it again. It was amazing. Especially what they say about the silence. My apologies. I'm a slightly functioning autistic.
 
I'm still randomly replacing components trying to get mine to work again. It's not going well :)


Maybe it never worked and I was hallucinating.


I thought Blomley's design was a single supply. I'll give up at some point. For now, I would advise people like me who don't know anything to avoid getting sucked into this project. I'm still trying to find an audio forum geared toward DIYers.



"Change the 200uF to 470uF" they said.



(Looks for a 200uF for 20 minutes, doesn't find one)
 
I thought Blomley's design was a single supply. I'll give up at some point. For now, I would advise people like me who don't know anything to avoid getting sucked into this project. I'm still trying to find an audio forum geared toward DIYers.

Hang in there, buddy. It's worth the trouble when you finally hear that creation singing. :)

Yes, it's a single supply. I see you've asked about capacitor values and voltage ratings a few days ago. For values, use Blomley's original (or the nearest current "preferred" value i.e. 250uF becomes 220uF). For voltage ratings, just look at the circuit and figure out the peak voltage at that point and add 10%. It's not rocket surgery.
 
Hang in there, buddy. It's worth the trouble when you finally hear that creation singing. :)


Thank you for the kind words of encouragement!


I'm going to build another one but with a proper heat sink so I don't kill it again.


I'm going to use the ZTX453 and ZTX553 as well as the BD139/BD140 for Q1/Q8.


I've looked through digikey but I'm still not sure exactly whether there's a suitable part there for to replace the NJW0302G/NJW0281G (which I can only find on eBay).


@egra mentioned "bass response" and a capacitor that doesn't exist in either his schematic nor Blomley's. That's what I was asking about.
 
My suggestion would be to stop calling it a Blomley amp, because it isn't.
It is not very nice to hijack someone else's thread.
It is also against the forum rules.

Jan


Hi Jan,


Are we talking about the same thread? This thread? Whose thread is it and how was it hijacked? What is happening.


(Edit: I think you might have me mixed up with @Astaro / post #111 above. I have nothing to do with that. I was referring to @egra's gerbers / schematic.)
 
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