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Scottjoplin, I find your offer incredibly naive or a set-up, but let me clue you in, in case you are sincere in your offer.
First, what are your credentials and background, and do you have direct access to the right test equipment to find what most of us don't? You would have to destroy the Bybee to prove that it is made of the materials that it claims to be. How else could you do it without an advanced physics lab?
If $100 is too much for you to invest, then the Bybee is not for you, any more than a Ferrari is for me.
Finally, if it was easy to measure the effects of what the Bybee does with conventional test equipment, we would already have done it. However, it has been measured at least once by Jack Bybee and the results put up here, by nobody has ever offered or bothered to duplicate the measurement, partially it is just too expensive to acquire the test equipment (BMI 8800) to have any chance of duplicating it.
Once again, if you can't invest $100 into one, you are without the resources too.

You cant be serious, this is so silly... Advanced Physics Lab... its a resistor wrapped in some ERS cloth or similar...
 
I was told by Jack the resistors did get warm by the quantum effect if there was a great deal of energy to dissipate from the quantum process, but usually the added heat should be small, because it operates at such a low level.
By the way, did you notice that the 0.025 ohm resistor in the Bybee device has a rating printed on it of 25W! Yet it looks like a 2 to 5W resistor. How do they make such a resistor with such a high wattage rating in such a small package? Can you do it for 50 cents? (That's what many think a resistor should cost with that size)

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I wonder if the existence of quantum information when a band is playing is the reason why analog sounds better than digital sound.

When you think about it when you are playing back a digital recording you are reproducing the sound by recreating it by causing electrons to build up or oscillate at a certain frequency through the process of flipping switches to finely replicate the same electrical signal which was present at the time of recording/ADC.

But when you think about it a recording onto analog media would be made in the time of the original production of the music. So maybe a recording of the quantum information is also present on analog recordings? And the reason why digital audio sounds so badly is because we are in affect producing a synthehol version of the real thing without the same quantum noise present at the time of the recording. The two quantum information fields then clash with each other and cause problems and interference.

Basically a piece of time, the 4th dimension, is present on the analog recording medium.

But we strip that 4th dimension out, the quantum entanglement, when we record or reproduce a digital signal.

Basically a vibration from a microphone produces an electron which produces a signal which alters the magnetic polarization of iron particles on a tape, but maybe the quantum information is preserved along with it?. But when you 'measure' those same electrical signals and provide a mathmatic representation of those same signals you are removing the possibility of quantum information being present in the reproduced audio.

It works for vinyl aswell. because there is a physical connection between the microphone, the electrical cable, and the stylus of a record. But because quantum entanglement doesn't require a physical connection between two materials to change or alter the information stored in the atoms of the medium that is being recorded upon that is why quantum signals are preserved at all.

But when you remove that process of being in the same space-time as the particles of air which are being vibrated by using a digital process you are discarding such information. You are in effect creating a painting of the past in the form of audio signals but when you look at a painting you are not playing back the past. The quantum information which has come and gone has not been preserved in the digital realm. But could have in the analog realm.

The million dollar question is, does quantum information get passed from the air molecules to the analog recording medium in some fashion.
 
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I was told by Jack the resistors did get warm by the quantum effect if there was a great deal of energy to dissipate from the quantum process, but usually the added heat should be small, because it operates at such a low level.
By the way, did you notice that the 0.025 ohm resistor in the Bybee device has a rating printed on it of 25W! Yet it looks like a 2 to 5W resistor. How do they make such a resistor with such a high wattage rating in such a small package? Can you do it for 50 cents? (That's what many think a resistor should cost with that size)
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You cant be serious, this is so silly... Advanced Physics Lab... its a resistor wrapped in some ERS cloth or similar...

Well google helps.
BMI 8800 seems to be a dedicated power line scope capable of 4MHz.
Nowdays anyone can get 10-100x faster scope for not too much money.
So equipment is not a problem, yet nobody could measure the unmeasurable? Probably because there is nothing to measure.:cool:
 
It is based in quantum theory, and nobody understands it completely.

Does that mean the inventor of them is a genius in quantum theory and DOES understand it but it holding back on his genius?

Lucky us, that he has decided not to benefit mankind but only to benefit audiophiles very subtly (in exchange for a lot of cash)..

Or did he just come across the effect by accident with no theory ? In which case.. how does he know it is based on quantum theory if no-one understands it? Except he does.... yet it was an accident... but he won't tell us about it. Doesn't make sense.

Or another option: I sell this ****, I think it works/I pretend it works (delete as appropriate). I make up that it's to do with quantum theory so that I can tell people that no-one understands it ... therefore I don't have to answer their intrusive questions into my sales practice..
 
I was told by Jack the resistors did get warm by the quantum effect if there was a great deal of energy to dissipate from the quantum process, but usually the added heat should be small, because it operates at such a low level.

I think someone should read a tiny bit about quantum theory and effects.

Heating and quantum effects absolutely do not live in the same worlds. Just understand what the "quanta" part of quantum mechanics is and you'll see the unimaginably small energy levels involved for quantum effects to be involved.

In fact, any of these snake oil things claiming to be based on quantum effects would likely require all the audio equipment to be cooled to near absolute zero for anything to be remotely happening in the quantum world.

It is something heating due to classical physics, e.g. current through a wire.
 
Hmm... An internet search (using Duck Duck Go search engine) suggests John Curl has/had a hand in the Bybee products. Has this been brought up already?

Here is some text brought up by a search, although info that is no longer on the website itself, I guess because is an older product:

Bybee Technologies | Innovative Audio Products
Power and audio signal filtration from California; claims use of quantum/superconducting technology; partially designed by John Curl.
 
I wonder if the existence of quantum information when a band is playing is the reason why analog sounds better than digital sound.

The million dollar question is, does quantum information get passed from the air molecules to the analog recording medium in some fashion.
I hear you and have posed similar thoughts.
According to my experiments it does indeed seem that something 'extra' is embedded into recordings.
Rec and pb gear usually adds 'dirt', however this dirt can be altered if not substantially removed, revealling the original 'vibe'.
Really intrinsically quiet pb gear substantially does this.

Dan.
 
I wonder if the existence of quantum information...

...a synthehol version of the real thing without the same quantum noise present at the time of the recording. The two quantum information fields then clash with each other and cause problems and interference.

... time, the 4th dimension,.

...quantum entanglement,

...quantum information

there is a physical connection between the microphone, the electrical cable, and the stylus

But because quantum entanglement doesn't require a physical connection between two materials to change or alter the information stored in the atoms of the medium that is being recorded upon that is why quantum signals are preserved at all.

in the same space-time as the particles of air
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I assume that was an elaborate parody.
 
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I wonder if this Bybee discussion should be moved to it's own thread. It's gone a bit beyond this thread's concept, I think, and is also a bit tiresome for some of us...

Actually I was happy that it finally moved to where it belongs, a snake oil thread in the lounge .. :)
They have been poisoning other more technical treads for too long.

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