Matt Taylor & Chain - I Remember When I Was Young Live 1982 ... 70's Oz blues classic, the lyrics are worth a listen.
Back on topic, I well remember the hype of the likes of Monster Cable et al...sure those cables made a sonic difference but it wasn't a positive difference overall to my ear then...or now.
The claims of MC in those days paved the way for a myriad of BS audio tweak products ever since....and the likes of Peter Belt etc only amplified the mysticism.
The likes of Bose etc peddling expensive junk saturation advertised in every form of media outlet has further hypnotised the masses.
As it comes down to it, it does not take much to alter the behaviours of standard mid-fi systems, the problem is the stupid prices charged and stupid claims/explanations for what amount to relatively minor changes in sonic behaviours of typical consumer level systems.
The bottom line is that general audio gear is hopelessly wrong in the first case.
Dan.
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Typical consumers aren't paying stupid prices, or paying the slightest attention to stupid claims of snake oil audio products. They have no desire to achieve changes in the sonic behavior of their systems, minor or otherwise. If they do, they buy new components, or HTiB stuff. Or Bose
Expecting the masses to become audiophile listeners/purchasers is irrational. They're satisfied with their standard mid-fi equipment.
Hmmmm, mostly they think their gear is great because advertising told them so.Typical consumers aren't paying stupid prices, or paying the slightest attention to stupid claims of snake oil audio products. They have no desire to achieve changes in the sonic behavior of their systems, minor or otherwise. If they do, they buy new components, or HTiB stuff. Or Bose
Expecting the masses to become audiophile listeners/purchasers is irrational. They're satisfied with their standard mid-fi equipment.
Most audio/av consumers wouldn't know shite from clay, but they do hear it when presented to them...if the extra expensive is justified or affordable is another matter, usually not.
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Typical consumers buy an all-in-one-stereo at Wal-Mart. (In the USA any way.)
I seriously doubt that 10% of the American consumers give a ratsass. Slightly upscale will be purchases at Best Buy or some such big box electronics store. Their selection is seriously limited and they push consumers to surround systems for their TV.
What percent of consumers actually understand anything about audio, and care?
5%?
I seriously doubt that 10% of the American consumers give a ratsass. Slightly upscale will be purchases at Best Buy or some such big box electronics store. Their selection is seriously limited and they push consumers to surround systems for their TV.
What percent of consumers actually understand anything about audio, and care?
5%?
This all reminds me of being 15 with my friend going through a home shopping catalogue getting more and more excited. next to each "hi-fi" was a star and a wattage rating.
He practically wet himself when he got to "1000 watts"
How the hell any hifi was ever 1000 watts I don't know. whatever.
As we all know, the sad truth is very few people care... even us. 99% of my audio listening is on my phone, out the house, samsung galaxy SIII. great on earphones, I recommend highly against using it as a source for HI-FI, even the cheapest systems show it up. How many of us use perfected speakers in a dedicated treated listening room?
The masses want to press a button and be automatically entertained. better sound is better, but they want ease and simplicity. And to be honest... so do I.
When a close friend asked me to come along and listen to a wireless SONOS sound bar, I asked him what he wanted. And damn it, that was his best option for his requirements.
So unless we break the laws of physics, society will be going for mass produced easy to use hi-fi junk, and 'audiophiles' will be 99% idiots that think speaker cables make a difference. (hint:they don't).
So I guess that leaves us as the 0.01% who care trying to get to some kind of audio nirvana and ranting about how everyone else is an idiot whilst our homes are filled with more and more electronic test equipment and divorce inducing junk.... or maybe that's just me.
He practically wet himself when he got to "1000 watts"
How the hell any hifi was ever 1000 watts I don't know. whatever.
As we all know, the sad truth is very few people care... even us. 99% of my audio listening is on my phone, out the house, samsung galaxy SIII. great on earphones, I recommend highly against using it as a source for HI-FI, even the cheapest systems show it up. How many of us use perfected speakers in a dedicated treated listening room?
The masses want to press a button and be automatically entertained. better sound is better, but they want ease and simplicity. And to be honest... so do I.
When a close friend asked me to come along and listen to a wireless SONOS sound bar, I asked him what he wanted. And damn it, that was his best option for his requirements.
So unless we break the laws of physics, society will be going for mass produced easy to use hi-fi junk, and 'audiophiles' will be 99% idiots that think speaker cables make a difference. (hint:they don't).
So I guess that leaves us as the 0.01% who care trying to get to some kind of audio nirvana and ranting about how everyone else is an idiot whilst our homes are filled with more and more electronic test equipment and divorce inducing junk.... or maybe that's just me.
On diyaudio, it is not quite that bad. However, some time ago I was urged by the originator of the Oppo thread to take my snide comments elsewhere.
nannoo, I am anxiously awaiting the day in the near future when my Ex has her stuff out of the downstairs Den so that I can begin setting up for both TV and as a listening room.
The room is a poor choice as it has paneling on three walls and brick with a fire place on the fourth. Floor is concrete with carpeting.
I'm not sure what kind of treatment I can do to improve the acoustics, but I suspect it won't be simple.
The room is a poor choice as it has paneling on three walls and brick with a fire place on the fourth. Floor is concrete with carpeting.
I'm not sure what kind of treatment I can do to improve the acoustics, but I suspect it won't be simple.
The wilfully ignorant serve a useful purpose, they help us apreciate good people.
A young woman once tried to ridicule me because i did not know that if i pullled a mains plug out without switching the socket off, the electricity would run out and be wasted.
I told her I was in the middle of wiring a trawler and knew a bit more about electricity than she did. She was disgusted, I was obviously unfit to do my job.
Some people revel in their ignorance.
A young woman once tried to ridicule me because i did not know that if i pullled a mains plug out without switching the socket off, the electricity would run out and be wasted.
I told her I was in the middle of wiring a trawler and knew a bit more about electricity than she did. She was disgusted, I was obviously unfit to do my job.
Some people revel in their ignorance.
Of course, if the advertising said ""The use of these pens reduces reflections, which improves the laser accuracy in reading raw data, which reduces the need for the correction circuitry to be activated, reducing interference originating from digital circuitry operations, and improves the sound," then one may have more difficulty proving "fraud" ...
If they had backed that up with tests rather than claims.
Like this here Marlene's Musings: Mythbusting with Marlene: The green Marker Tweak . Actually found one cd player that responded to the green pen...
Like this here Marlene's Musings: Mythbusting with Marlene: The green Marker Tweak . Actually found one cd player that responded to the green pen...
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