F5 power amplifier

CRCRC :

First C 2 x 18,000 uF
First R 4 x 1R0
Second C 1 X 18,000 uF
Second R 4 x 1R0
Third C 7 x 2200 uF.

The last C should be high quality low ESR caps.

Simulation looks good with ripple below 100 mV and thats with RMS output current of around 5 A. Not bad at all.

Considering I will never really need 5 A RMS continously it should work very well with more "normal" loads where you only really need alot of current for transients.

I think Im done now. :D
 
Then you can start with a 20 to 22 volts transfo.

Though, I am not shure the second RC cell is necessary.
Generally, three cells are used when the voltage of the transfo is too high

Why not to follow the Nelson's scheme (increasing C values if you like). He really knows what to do.

Or, if you want a very low ripple, you can also build a cap multiplier.
 
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Then you can start with a 20 to 22 volts transfo.

Though, I am not shure the second RC cell is necessary.
Generally, three cells are used when the voltage of the transfo is too high

Why not to follow the Nelson's scheme (increasing C values if you like). He really knows what to do.

Or, if you want a very low ripple, you can also build a cap multiplier.

30 V transformer, going for cascode F5.

Supply would give me around 37 Volts out with RMS load current of 4,6 A and only 66mV ripple. Load current of 8,3 A gets me 33,3 volts and 115 mV ripple. But since these numbers are continous output current, in a real world scenario with a "normal" speaker load with varying current demands the performance should be much, much better.

Could follow nelsons schematic 100% but I like to do stuff my own way. Anyone can copy a schematic and make it work. Which is why I also made layout for that 4 x output pair cascoded F5, although that has dropped to 3 x output pairs in a revised design.
 
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Which load do you design for?

My speakers are 8 ohm but they drop to 4 ohm in the bass region. 3 x output pairs with a supply of 37 volts should give me around 18 A current limit from my amplifier. I need around 4.2 A in 8 ohm to reach 68W and double that for 136 W in 4 Ohm, so 8.4 A in 4 ohm. Well within the current limit and with power to spare. With weird phase angles and similar, having current to spare is a good idea.
 
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I am well on my way to completing my F5 using cvillers mk2 amp boards and p/s boards and wondered if it was advisable/necessary to use lead offcuts to solder in the three plated through holes near the middle of the p/s pcb? They are where the 0.47R resistors fit. TIA

I'm planning on doing something like that myself or running a jumper wire. Maybe would have been better to have solder pads instead of the three vias.
 
Dear All,

I will probably put the last connector today, and the project will be complete. (That's strange it never happens). Anyway, I noticed that the bias is not super stable, mainly related to temperature. I have a Shredinger cat effect. The bias change with open and close chassis, but I need to open it to change it. How do you do it ?

I am speaking about the voltage around the 0.47 ohm resistors varying 15-20 mV. Could it be that the thermistors are too close to the MOSFET ?

Thanks,

Davide
 
Probably not. I glue mine right to the case of the Mosfet,
which minimizes the open case effect.

:cool:

I am even more puzzled, I thought that the increase in temperature had the effect of lowering the current. After few hours of use and test I had 630 mV, while yesterday I set it around 590 mV. The DC offset is stable.

I am trying to understand if I am figuring an issue or not. The heatsink is not too hot, I can put my hand on it indefinitely, but inside the chassis I have 50 C.

Thanks,

D.
 
Neutraity
couple of questions as I am working on similar set up.

Is the las cap 2200uf 2200 microfarads?is this corect.

at 37 volts 1.4 A device is about 50W disipation each correct?

what are you doing for heat sink and thermal interface?

Tanks

Last caps are 7 x 2200 uF caps, thats 2200 microfarads.

37 volts at 500mA pr FET is 18,7 W dissipation pr FET.

That is my current plan, bias pr FET might be a little more or a little less, depending on cooling performance of the case Im planning on using.

Will be a case from modu
 
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My final CRCRC Supply. Compact with low ripple and more than enough output capability for a 68W/8 ohm - 120W/4 ohm F5.
 

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